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		<title>By: Startup Reading List &#124; SocialStartups.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Startup Reading List &#124; SocialStartups.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Porter&#8217;s blog on social web design, like&#160;activity-centered design, the&#160;social web usage lifecycle, etc. Actually, just go read&#160;his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The best from the &#8220;good reads&#8221; on my online news reading list - Joe Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The best from the &#8220;good reads&#8221; on my online news reading list - Joe Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Activity-centred Design - a response to Joshua Porter &#171; Meld Consulting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Activity-centred Design - a response to Joshua Porter &#171; Meld Consulting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] response to your article &#8220;Activity-centered Design&#8221; published at http://bokardo.com/archives/activity-centered-design/ I would like to offer the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Comparing UX methodologies &#171; Meld Consulting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comparing UX methodologies &#171; Meld Consulting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] order to extend the conversation Joshua Porter kicked up at bokardo.com on the benefits of activity-centred design and its possible superiority over other design [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-01-25 &#171; Mogore</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-01-25 &#171; Mogore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Activity-Centered Design - Bokardo (tags: lang:en ergonomie) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Olly Wright</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/activity-centered-design/comment-page-1/#comment-271507</link>
		<dc:creator>Olly Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say I&#039;m most in agreement with Jared.

I don&#039;t see a deeply meaningful distinction: to me it&#039;s like the Italians arguing with the Spanish about Serrano versus Parma ham. They both taste almost the same as long as they&#039;re well made.

I would shorten your axiom to : &#039;keep it as simple as possible&#039;, or &#039;make it no more complex than it needs to be&#039;. This has been a valuable design principle since humans made the first stone tools. My ancestors hunting spear did not have a toothpick attachment.

Certainly we should also think of user behaviour in terms of a sequence of steps, rather than getting stuck on thinking about things on the &#039;page level&#039;. But also, we shouldn&#039;t become so obsessed with activity-flow that we create a rabbit warren.

This all becomes more complex on multi-function sites that serve more traditional companies that offer a wide range of products and services to different audiences, rather than the single-proposition sites you list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say I&#8217;m most in agreement with Jared.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see a deeply meaningful distinction: to me it&#8217;s like the Italians arguing with the Spanish about Serrano versus Parma ham. They both taste almost the same as long as they&#8217;re well made.</p>
<p>I would shorten your axiom to : &#8216;keep it as simple as possible&#8217;, or &#8216;make it no more complex than it needs to be&#8217;. This has been a valuable design principle since humans made the first stone tools. My ancestors hunting spear did not have a toothpick attachment.</p>
<p>Certainly we should also think of user behaviour in terms of a sequence of steps, rather than getting stuck on thinking about things on the &#8216;page level&#8217;. But also, we shouldn&#8217;t become so obsessed with activity-flow that we create a rabbit warren.</p>
<p>This all becomes more complex on multi-function sites that serve more traditional companies that offer a wide range of products and services to different audiences, rather than the single-proposition sites you list.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good question, Jim. I like that it&#039;s framed from the user&#039;s perspective, and not the site owner&#039;s. So (hopefully) they&#039;re not thinking &quot;what do I want them to do?&quot; but thinking about what the users of the site really want to do. 

Features as affordances that make an activity easier...will think more on that. Interesting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good question, Jim. I like that it&#8217;s framed from the user&#8217;s perspective, and not the site owner&#8217;s. So (hopefully) they&#8217;re not thinking &#8220;what do I want them to do?&#8221; but thinking about what the users of the site really want to do. </p>
<p>Features as affordances that make an activity easier&#8230;will think more on that. Interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Vogt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Vogt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Josh, great post and discussion you&#039;ve generated here. 

When I was at New City Media, we&#039;d start projects off with a KJ of stakeholders and ask the question &lt;em&gt;&quot;What would someone coming to [website] expect to either find or do?&quot; &lt;/em&gt;I can&#039;t remember who to credit for that question, but it nearly always elicited great responses from the participants - lots of verbs. (and despite trying, I&#039;ve had a hard time coming up with a better question)

Sometimes the post-its would be specific, like &quot;buy tickets,&quot; sometimes they might be more general like &quot;find out what sort of research is going on at the university.&quot;  I&#039;ve even seen something as nebulous (but fun) as &quot;see cool stuff&quot; go on to get a majority of votes from the session. 

Items like &quot;see cool stuff&quot; don&#039;t tell you how to create a &quot;feature&quot; of the site. But they do provide guidance as to what sort of activities that users would like to &quot;do,&quot; it starts the dialog which turns into a framework or an architecture for activity. 

So I think that features are outgrowths of activity - they&#039;re like an affordance that makes the activity easier. Maybe I&#039;m stating the obvious, but designing for features doesn&#039;t make as much sense as designing for activity. 

Now, there are lots of bad ways to design an activity, and that&#039;s where user-centered techniques can help smooth out the rough spots. But starting with activity has never steered me wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh, great post and discussion you&#8217;ve generated here. </p>
<p>When I was at New City Media, we&#8217;d start projects off with a KJ of stakeholders and ask the question <em>&#8220;What would someone coming to [website] expect to either find or do?&#8221; </em>I can&#8217;t remember who to credit for that question, but it nearly always elicited great responses from the participants &#8211; lots of verbs. (and despite trying, I&#8217;ve had a hard time coming up with a better question)</p>
<p>Sometimes the post-its would be specific, like &#8220;buy tickets,&#8221; sometimes they might be more general like &#8220;find out what sort of research is going on at the university.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve even seen something as nebulous (but fun) as &#8220;see cool stuff&#8221; go on to get a majority of votes from the session. </p>
<p>Items like &#8220;see cool stuff&#8221; don&#8217;t tell you how to create a &#8220;feature&#8221; of the site. But they do provide guidance as to what sort of activities that users would like to &#8220;do,&#8221; it starts the dialog which turns into a framework or an architecture for activity. </p>
<p>So I think that features are outgrowths of activity &#8211; they&#8217;re like an affordance that makes the activity easier. Maybe I&#8217;m stating the obvious, but designing for features doesn&#8217;t make as much sense as designing for activity. </p>
<p>Now, there are lots of bad ways to design an activity, and that&#8217;s where user-centered techniques can help smooth out the rough spots. But starting with activity has never steered me wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: goodness in sharing&#8230; &#187; Evolving some thoughts on measuring social media</title>
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		<dc:creator>goodness in sharing&#8230; &#187; Evolving some thoughts on measuring social media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Websites tagged "facebook" on Postsaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Websites tagged "facebook" on Postsaver</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Dev Blog AF83 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Veille technologique : Merb, Vim, geode, iPhone, etc.</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/activity-centered-design/comment-page-1/#comment-261312</link>
		<dc:creator>Dev Blog AF83 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Veille technologique : Merb, Vim, geode, iPhone, etc.</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] conseille de ne garder que les fonctionnalitÃ©s rÃ©ellement nÃ©cessaires dans les applis web. * http://bokardo.com/archives/activity-centered-design/ : le design centrÃ© sur l&#8217;activitÃ©. * [...]</description>
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		<title>By: nickbouton.com &#187; Twitter vs. Facebook, Revisited</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickbouton.com &#187; Twitter vs. Facebook, Revisited</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] in Designing for the Social WebÂ thatÂ the best social media sites are the ones where most of the interaction isÂ centralized onÂ specific activities orÂ types of content (think Netflix with DVDs, Delicious with bookmarks,Â and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jarod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Josh,
Thanks for the great post. Here&#039;re some points i could bring up
1. Alan Cooper&#039;s GDD and ACD is not conflict, you can say Goal driven and Activity Centered, makes sense
2. The original activity theory is dry and seems not bring pragmatic to the design domain ( especially after study some piece of it.
3. The activity could also be considered as Scenario or use case, they have the common kernel from my view.
4. UCD already bring many useful practice, but agree with you, the name brings to much trouble to designers ( for design thinking and practice), that&#039;s the reason why it&#039;s not so good

maybe something like, goal driven, scenario/activity Centered, prototyping&amp;Testing iterated process makes some sense here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh,<br />
Thanks for the great post. Here&#8217;re some points i could bring up<br />
1. Alan Cooper&#8217;s GDD and ACD is not conflict, you can say Goal driven and Activity Centered, makes sense<br />
2. The original activity theory is dry and seems not bring pragmatic to the design domain ( especially after study some piece of it.<br />
3. The activity could also be considered as Scenario or use case, they have the common kernel from my view.<br />
4. UCD already bring many useful practice, but agree with you, the name brings to much trouble to designers ( for design thinking and practice), that&#8217;s the reason why it&#8217;s not so good</p>
<p>maybe something like, goal driven, scenario/activity Centered, prototyping&amp;Testing iterated process makes some sense here.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Baty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Baty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Hi Steve, you bring up an incredibly important point. Are methodologies not as important as we think, and the people using them much moreso?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;I tend to agree, as smart people who know how to design are going to pay attention to what is important, whether they do it under the umbrella of ACD, UCD, IA, or whatever.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;I also like your question about where ACD is more suited...this might entirely be the case. I don&#039;t know...part of the fun of throwing blog posts out there is to see what folks come up with!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Thanks for your insights here. I&#039;m going to keep them in mind as I keep digging further on the topic.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Cheers, Josh&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Josh,

I think it&#039;s important to clarify that I refer not only to &lt;em&gt;how good&lt;/em&gt; are your team members, but also &lt;em&gt;what it is they&#039;re good at&lt;/em&gt;. Depending on their skillsets you might find it more appropriate to choose one methodology over another. Or at least to emphasise those tasks in which your team has the greatest strength.

I wonder whether those projects used as poster-children for each of the different methodologies were the result of making a choice that best matched the project requirements &amp; team members rather than the superiority of the methodology itself.

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><br />
<blockquote>Hi Steve, you bring up an incredibly important point. Are methodologies not as important as we think, and the people using them much moreso?</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I tend to agree, as smart people who know how to design are going to pay attention to what is important, whether they do it under the umbrella of ACD, UCD, IA, or whatever.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I also like your question about where ACD is more suited&#8230;this might entirely be the case. I don&#8217;t know&#8230;part of the fun of throwing blog posts out there is to see what folks come up with!</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Thanks for your insights here. I&#8217;m going to keep them in mind as I keep digging further on the topic.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Cheers, Josh</p></blockquote>
<p></em></p>
<p>Josh,</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important to clarify that I refer not only to <em>how good</em> are your team members, but also <em>what it is they&#8217;re good at</em>. Depending on their skillsets you might find it more appropriate to choose one methodology over another. Or at least to emphasise those tasks in which your team has the greatest strength.</p>
<p>I wonder whether those projects used as poster-children for each of the different methodologies were the result of making a choice that best matched the project requirements &amp; team members rather than the superiority of the methodology itself.</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-10-02 &#171; Green Tea Ice Cream</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-10-02 &#171; Green Tea Ice Cream</dc:creator>
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