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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/amazon-wish-list-sharing-gets-it-wrong/#comment-151581</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, big mistake. I also had trouble over the holidays finding people&#039;s gift lists online. Before finding the link was clear and easy, but i spent alot of time just trying to find where to lookup my friend&#039;s list. Another usability mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, big mistake. I also had trouble over the holidays finding people&#8217;s gift lists online. Before finding the link was clear and easy, but i spent alot of time just trying to find where to lookup my friend&#8217;s list. Another usability mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Damon</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/amazon-wish-list-sharing-gets-it-wrong/#comment-150697</link>
		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The copy seems to assume that the wish list e-mail was unsolicited. I can see how sending one out in that context would be awkward, so any examples (editable!) are good. But looking at a solicited scenario (you just spoke to some family / friends) who asked what&#039;s on your list, it becomes REALLY awkward... there is no reason for that kind of an introduction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The copy seems to assume that the wish list e-mail was unsolicited. I can see how sending one out in that context would be awkward, so any examples (editable!) are good. But looking at a solicited scenario (you just spoke to some family / friends) who asked what&#8217;s on your list, it becomes REALLY awkward&#8230; there is no reason for that kind of an introduction.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/amazon-wish-list-sharing-gets-it-wrong/#comment-150688</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish the wishlists had a unique url (visible on the page)that you could forward to people. That way when people ask me what i want for christmas i can include all my wishlists in one email. Also there is a chance that spam filters may put amazon&#039;s mail in the bin, and then I&#039;d cry on christmas day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish the wishlists had a unique url (visible on the page)that you could forward to people. That way when people ask me what i want for christmas i can include all my wishlists in one email. Also there is a chance that spam filters may put amazon&#8217;s mail in the bin, and then I&#8217;d cry on christmas day.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris - boxedup.com</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/amazon-wish-list-sharing-gets-it-wrong/#comment-150687</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris - boxedup.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Joshua

Chris from boxedup.com here. We&#039;re a start-up in the shopping/wish/gift list space (we&#039;re all about connecting people and the products they love). We&#039;ve got a dual focus on the personal and social utility in tracking, and interacting around, the things that you want to get from anywhere on the web (so it&#039;s basically social bookmarking meets social networking for the stuff you want and are into).

Not going to pretend that we&#039;ve nailed everything yet from an experience perspective, but we&#039;re getting there (we&#039;re pushing improvements out fairly continuously, including iterating the design as we understand more about interaction opportunities and needs - drag and drop to re-order lists coming tomorrow!).

As far as invites are concerned, we&#039;ve got a more minimalist, but still generic, message that goes out right now, so room for improvement here in terms of personalising the message (but that&#039;ll be coming). The standard message performs fairly well in getting the desired result (i.e. people signing up in response), but since it&#039;s a message that often arrives in your inbox out of the blue a generic message doesn&#039;t give the service the all-important personal context (or maximise conversion potential). So thanks for reinforcing this point!

There are obviously lots of sharing and communication opportunities in this type of proposition, whether it&#039;s on-site comments, messaging or content sharing, and it&#039;s certainly something that we think about a lot, and look to embed throughout every level of the service. We&#039;ve definitely found that people love using the communication tools to share thoughts and comments.

Anyway, thanks for the post, and for all the good thought-provoking stuff that you write on Bokardo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joshua</p>
<p>Chris from boxedup.com here. We&#8217;re a start-up in the shopping/wish/gift list space (we&#8217;re all about connecting people and the products they love). We&#8217;ve got a dual focus on the personal and social utility in tracking, and interacting around, the things that you want to get from anywhere on the web (so it&#8217;s basically social bookmarking meets social networking for the stuff you want and are into).</p>
<p>Not going to pretend that we&#8217;ve nailed everything yet from an experience perspective, but we&#8217;re getting there (we&#8217;re pushing improvements out fairly continuously, including iterating the design as we understand more about interaction opportunities and needs &#8211; drag and drop to re-order lists coming tomorrow!).</p>
<p>As far as invites are concerned, we&#8217;ve got a more minimalist, but still generic, message that goes out right now, so room for improvement here in terms of personalising the message (but that&#8217;ll be coming). The standard message performs fairly well in getting the desired result (i.e. people signing up in response), but since it&#8217;s a message that often arrives in your inbox out of the blue a generic message doesn&#8217;t give the service the all-important personal context (or maximise conversion potential). So thanks for reinforcing this point!</p>
<p>There are obviously lots of sharing and communication opportunities in this type of proposition, whether it&#8217;s on-site comments, messaging or content sharing, and it&#8217;s certainly something that we think about a lot, and look to embed throughout every level of the service. We&#8217;ve definitely found that people love using the communication tools to share thoughts and comments.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for the post, and for all the good thought-provoking stuff that you write on Bokardo!</p>
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		<title>By: Cem Sertoglu</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/amazon-wish-list-sharing-gets-it-wrong/#comment-150679</link>
		<dc:creator>Cem Sertoglu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, although most web users have by now learned to ignore the heading copy on emails like these...  You assume it&#039;s pre-filled by the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, although most web users have by now learned to ignore the heading copy on emails like these&#8230;  You assume it&#8217;s pre-filled by the site.</p>
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		<title>By: Runescape</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/amazon-wish-list-sharing-gets-it-wrong/#comment-150671</link>
		<dc:creator>Runescape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool idea and your friends dont&#039;t have to ask you &quot;what do you want for you Happy Birthday?&quot; I have only to make this list of your wish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool idea and your friends dont&#8217;t have to ask you &#8220;what do you want for you Happy Birthday?&#8221; I have only to make this list of your wish</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Markwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Markwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t terribly hard to click, &quot;Tell people about this list&quot; to copy and paste the unique url into an email.  I tend to prefer this method as it actually comes from my e-mail address.  The idea of giving Amazon.com random family/friend e-mail addresses simply to send them a link is a bit excessive and may ruffle their privacy concerns.  The bigger issue is defining how we share information, if only there was some sort of uniform resource locator I could give to someone over IM....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t terribly hard to click, &#8220;Tell people about this list&#8221; to copy and paste the unique url into an email.  I tend to prefer this method as it actually comes from my e-mail address.  The idea of giving Amazon.com random family/friend e-mail addresses simply to send them a link is a bit excessive and may ruffle their privacy concerns.  The bigger issue is defining how we share information, if only there was some sort of uniform resource locator I could give to someone over IM&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: David Garcia</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just the other day I needed to send my wish list to several people. I disliked the copy so much that I emailed the link to myself then just forwarded the link, sans poor message. I looked for a place where I can just copy then paste the link, but didn&#039;t see it anywhere. Probably just missed it, I&#039;d imagine they wouldn&#039;t leave out something so basic yet crucial. You know, the features for the power users that can not only tie their own shoes but also send email.

When I saw their form letter, I guessed immediately that it was for security reasons. Other large web sites have gotten around the security-issue aspect in so many ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just the other day I needed to send my wish list to several people. I disliked the copy so much that I emailed the link to myself then just forwarded the link, sans poor message. I looked for a place where I can just copy then paste the link, but didn&#8217;t see it anywhere. Probably just missed it, I&#8217;d imagine they wouldn&#8217;t leave out something so basic yet crucial. You know, the features for the power users that can not only tie their own shoes but also send email.</p>
<p>When I saw their form letter, I guessed immediately that it was for security reasons. Other large web sites have gotten around the security-issue aspect in so many ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Zuschlag</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/amazon-wish-list-sharing-gets-it-wrong/#comment-150658</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Zuschlag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;whatâ€™s good for the user is good for the company... doesnâ€™t quite mesh.&quot; I mean that this may be an example of a conflict between the userâ€™s goals and the companyâ€™s goals. The default copy may be good for getting people to use Amazon for gift-buying, but itâ€™s not so good for fostering relationships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;whatâ€™s good for the user is good for the company&#8230; doesnâ€™t quite mesh.&#8221; I mean that this may be an example of a conflict between the userâ€™s goals and the companyâ€™s goals. The default copy may be good for getting people to use Amazon for gift-buying, but itâ€™s not so good for fostering relationships.</p>
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		<title>By: ANDY</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANDY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t you just send it to yourself and edit thet text and forward along the more critical message details / links?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t you just send it to yourself and edit thet text and forward along the more critical message details / links?</p>
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		<title>By: Amazon Wish List team member</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amazon Wish List team member</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The text of this email has been locked temporarily for security reasons until we can implement a better solution.   
The timing before the holidays is quite unfortunate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The text of this email has been locked temporarily for security reasons until we can implement a better solution.<br />
The timing before the holidays is quite unfortunate.</p>
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		<title>By: Juliette</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/amazon-wish-list-sharing-gets-it-wrong/#comment-150647</link>
		<dc:creator>Juliette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s something that they&#039;ve changed in the last three months - you always used to be able to edit the text, but I was really shocked a couple of days when I couldn&#039;t and I wasn&#039;t sure if it was a bug or deliberate. I had to e-mail the URL myself instead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s something that they&#8217;ve changed in the last three months &#8211; you always used to be able to edit the text, but I was really shocked a couple of days when I couldn&#8217;t and I wasn&#8217;t sure if it was a bug or deliberate. I had to e-mail the URL myself instead!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I suppose your theory is possible, but I really doubt that Amazon &quot;decided it would get them more sales than what an average user would write&quot;. That would be completely inconsistent with the rest of the site, which leverages social interactions from the people themselves to provide value to others. 

Your point about gift-giving is right on. But I would like to hear more about &quot;An underlying assumption of UX is that whatâ€™s good for the user is good for the company, but sometimes it doesnâ€™t quite mesh&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I suppose your theory is possible, but I really doubt that Amazon &#8220;decided it would get them more sales than what an average user would write&#8221;. That would be completely inconsistent with the rest of the site, which leverages social interactions from the people themselves to provide value to others. </p>
<p>Your point about gift-giving is right on. But I would like to hear more about &#8220;An underlying assumption of UX is that whatâ€™s good for the user is good for the company, but sometimes it doesnâ€™t quite mesh&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Zuschlag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Zuschlag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sounds like it was written by someone desperate to make a sale.&quot; 

Maybe that&#039;s why they did it. Amazon&#039;s goal is to get people to buy their things. This can be accomplished by getting people to use wish lists and to create their own for others to use. I bet they committeed this copy and decided it would get them more sales than what an average user would write, and maybe thatâ€™s even true. An underlying assumption of UX is that whatâ€™s good for the user is good for the company, but sometimes it doesnâ€™t quite mesh. Gift-giving is about fostering human relationships, not about buying as much as possible from Amazon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sounds like it was written by someone desperate to make a sale.&#8221; </p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s why they did it. Amazon&#8217;s goal is to get people to buy their things. This can be accomplished by getting people to use wish lists and to create their own for others to use. I bet they committeed this copy and decided it would get them more sales than what an average user would write, and maybe thatâ€™s even true. An underlying assumption of UX is that whatâ€™s good for the user is good for the company, but sometimes it doesnâ€™t quite mesh. Gift-giving is about fostering human relationships, not about buying as much as possible from Amazon.</p>
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		<title>By: Ingrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ingrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this last week on Amazon.de (Germany). This must be a bug! I wonder why they haven&#039;t figured it out. I sent my wishlist on and followed it up with a personal e-mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this last week on Amazon.de (Germany). This must be a bug! I wonder why they haven&#8217;t figured it out. I sent my wishlist on and followed it up with a personal e-mail.</p>
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