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		<title>By: barcode :: Lungo silenzio&#8230; :: May :: 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>barcode :: Lungo silenzio&#8230; :: May :: 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 10:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tra impegni di lavoro e ponti, &#232; un po&#8217; che non aggiorno il blog e la cosa mi dispiace.Non che manchino gli spunti, anzi, ecco una lista di post e di articoli che mi sono salvato con l&#8217;intenzione prima o poi di parlarne sul blog:Customer experience definitions: The finale (l&#8217;ultimo di una serie di post dedicati a definire la &quot;customer experience&quot;)Social Media Disrupts All Company Communication (un breve post sugli effetti dei social media sulla comunicazione aziendale)Blinded by the Apple iPod (se avessi tempo e soprattutto ne fossi capace scriverei un libro su quello che io definisco &quot;l&#8217;effetto iPod&quot;, cio&#232; sugli impatti che questa scatoletta piena di circuiti ha avuto su diversi ambiti, questo post sottolinea come l&#8217;iPod sia stato un unicum nella storia dell&#8217;affermazione di un prodotto e ci&#242; nonostante sia la chimera alla quale tutti cercano di rifarsi, sia che producano auto che biscotti)The Conversation Age (un breve post che ha lo scopo di lanciare il progetto di un ebook sulla &quot;conversation economy&quot;, l&#8217;idea &#232; quella di afere 100 contributi)Did The Internet Save the Superbowl Ad? (un post dedicato agli spot &quot;user generated&quot; che sono stati programmati durante l&#8217;ultimo SuperBowl) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tra impegni di lavoro e ponti, &egrave; un po&#8217; che non aggiorno il blog e la cosa mi dispiace.Non che manchino gli spunti, anzi, ecco una lista di post e di articoli che mi sono salvato con l&#8217;intenzione prima o poi di parlarne sul blog:Customer experience definitions: The finale (l&#8217;ultimo di una serie di post dedicati a definire la &quot;customer experience&quot;)Social Media Disrupts All Company Communication (un breve post sugli effetti dei social media sulla comunicazione aziendale)Blinded by the Apple iPod (se avessi tempo e soprattutto ne fossi capace scriverei un libro su quello che io definisco &quot;l&#8217;effetto iPod&quot;, cio&egrave; sugli impatti che questa scatoletta piena di circuiti ha avuto su diversi ambiti, questo post sottolinea come l&#8217;iPod sia stato un unicum nella storia dell&#8217;affermazione di un prodotto e ci&ograve; nonostante sia la chimera alla quale tutti cercano di rifarsi, sia che producano auto che biscotti)The Conversation Age (un breve post che ha lo scopo di lanciare il progetto di un ebook sulla &quot;conversation economy&quot;, l&#8217;idea &egrave; quella di afere 100 contributi)Did The Internet Save the Superbowl Ad? (un post dedicato agli spot &quot;user generated&quot; che sono stati programmati durante l&#8217;ultimo SuperBowl) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zune : Blinded by the Apple iPod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zune : Blinded by the Apple iPod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 00:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael Camilleri</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/blinded-by-the-apple-ipod/comment-page-1/#comment-127314</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Camilleri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 13:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Of course, the situational context that brought the iPod into being will never exist again. Never again will an atmosphere exist like the one in the late 90s. Never again will Apple be able to fly under the radar of the music industry. Never again will huge competitors laugh at Apple for making a small, silly device with rounded corners and a click-wheel.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not sure if I can entirely agree with this. Although there&#039;s a lot of buzz about the iPhone in a way there wasn&#039;t with the initial iPod I do believe that in its creation Apple has: a) managed to fly under the radar of the mobile phone industry and b) had its competitors laugh at why anyone would want to pay $500 for a phone that doesn&#039;t even have a keyboard.

As posters above have pointed out, if the iPhone is even moderately successful in the absolutely huge cell phone market Apple stands to sell a lot more iPhones than it did iPods. In the sense that the iPhone won&#039;t rescue Apple from obscurity, you&#039;re right that it can&#039;t replicate the iPod. In the sense that it may be to mobile phones what the iPod was to the Walkman, I&#039;m not so sure it won&#039;t have a similar sized impact.

I accept, however, this wasn&#039;t really your point. What you seemed to be getting at is that using the iPod as the one-size fits all design analogy often obscures what the real solution should be. The iPod is a great example of how software and hardware should work together but there are problems it can&#039;t solve. I don&#039;t like the way newspaper web sites are designed. Should they be designed more like the iPod? Well what the hell does that even mean? Analogies are fun and sometimes even helpful but one does need to be careful, especially when using the iPod, seductive though it may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Of course, the situational context that brought the iPod into being will never exist again. Never again will an atmosphere exist like the one in the late 90s. Never again will Apple be able to fly under the radar of the music industry. Never again will huge competitors laugh at Apple for making a small, silly device with rounded corners and a click-wheel.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I can entirely agree with this. Although there&#8217;s a lot of buzz about the iPhone in a way there wasn&#8217;t with the initial iPod I do believe that in its creation Apple has: a) managed to fly under the radar of the mobile phone industry and b) had its competitors laugh at why anyone would want to pay $500 for a phone that doesn&#8217;t even have a keyboard.</p>
<p>As posters above have pointed out, if the iPhone is even moderately successful in the absolutely huge cell phone market Apple stands to sell a lot more iPhones than it did iPods. In the sense that the iPhone won&#8217;t rescue Apple from obscurity, you&#8217;re right that it can&#8217;t replicate the iPod. In the sense that it may be to mobile phones what the iPod was to the Walkman, I&#8217;m not so sure it won&#8217;t have a similar sized impact.</p>
<p>I accept, however, this wasn&#8217;t really your point. What you seemed to be getting at is that using the iPod as the one-size fits all design analogy often obscures what the real solution should be. The iPod is a great example of how software and hardware should work together but there are problems it can&#8217;t solve. I don&#8217;t like the way newspaper web sites are designed. Should they be designed more like the iPod? Well what the hell does that even mean? Analogies are fun and sometimes even helpful but one does need to be careful, especially when using the iPod, seductive though it may be.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 09:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple has a different working culture than e.g. Microsoft as in &quot;more open&quot;. This is an advantage since the developer of the ipod interface software gradually developed simple and reusable blocks of software for the iPod (mobile devices) and in 2001 iPod hit the markets. It would not be a hit if the mac did not support firewire (fast uploading files). Again, the hardware was doing a fine job at the time though Apple&#039;s hardware development and innovationd epartment was very slow during the late 90s. The navigation of the ipod is dead simple, and is just doing what iPod supposed to do: navigation through music files. Added, the design of the ipod was done seperately but suopports the software UI design well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple has a different working culture than e.g. Microsoft as in &#8220;more open&#8221;. This is an advantage since the developer of the ipod interface software gradually developed simple and reusable blocks of software for the iPod (mobile devices) and in 2001 iPod hit the markets. It would not be a hit if the mac did not support firewire (fast uploading files). Again, the hardware was doing a fine job at the time though Apple&#8217;s hardware development and innovationd epartment was very slow during the late 90s. The navigation of the ipod is dead simple, and is just doing what iPod supposed to do: navigation through music files. Added, the design of the ipod was done seperately but suopports the software UI design well.</p>
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		<title>By: Shahar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shahar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 08:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely put. If anything, apple has shown that interfaces can have &#039;breating space&#039;, be simple and remain very usable. That&#039;s something to take inspiration from, but not copy.
(Maybe that&#039;s, or somthing like it, is what customers mean when they say &quot;Make it more like an iPod&quot;?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely put. If anything, apple has shown that interfaces can have &#8216;breating space&#8217;, be simple and remain very usable. That&#8217;s something to take inspiration from, but not copy.<br />
(Maybe that&#8217;s, or somthing like it, is what customers mean when they say &#8220;Make it more like an iPod&#8221;?)</p>
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		<title>By: jharr</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/blinded-by-the-apple-ipod/comment-page-1/#comment-126472</link>
		<dc:creator>jharr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like a more common theme is developing here, basically since Apple&#039;s done well the only way to succeed is to be contrary and do the opposite, you even said so in this post.  That just seems short-sighted and a bit &#039;bandwagon&#039; to me. I think understanding why the product was successful (tremendous innovation, hard work and a keen sense of reading what consumer want) and also understanding the market and other forces that you can&#039;t control give you a pretty clear path to travel down if you want to have similar success with another product.

The Zune didn&#039;t fail because it was too much like the iPod, it failed because it was too much like Microsoft - developed by committee and watered down to the point it had no soul left, took no risks.  Innovation is the key, if it&#039;s not really changing the way people interact with the world it won&#039;t ever capture marketshare like the iPod.  That goes for the iPhone as well, although the mobile phone market is a very different beast and Apple&#039;s entrance into it is well behind the curve, with the right mix of innovation and style they may surprise us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like a more common theme is developing here, basically since Apple&#8217;s done well the only way to succeed is to be contrary and do the opposite, you even said so in this post.  That just seems short-sighted and a bit &#8216;bandwagon&#8217; to me. I think understanding why the product was successful (tremendous innovation, hard work and a keen sense of reading what consumer want) and also understanding the market and other forces that you can&#8217;t control give you a pretty clear path to travel down if you want to have similar success with another product.</p>
<p>The Zune didn&#8217;t fail because it was too much like the iPod, it failed because it was too much like Microsoft &#8211; developed by committee and watered down to the point it had no soul left, took no risks.  Innovation is the key, if it&#8217;s not really changing the way people interact with the world it won&#8217;t ever capture marketshare like the iPod.  That goes for the iPhone as well, although the mobile phone market is a very different beast and Apple&#8217;s entrance into it is well behind the curve, with the right mix of innovation and style they may surprise us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Of course, the situational context that brought the iPod into being will never exist again. Never again will an atmosphere exist like the one in the late 90s.&quot;

Now wait a minute. Are you speaking here of the context of &quot;digital music players&quot; or of &quot;technology in the 90&#039;s&quot; in general? Sure, you&#039;re probably right about the first, but certainly not about the second. Of course there will again be a moment like the 1990&#039;s: there will again be a time when some personal technology moves from the margins to the mainstream, possibly disrupting old industries in some unpredictable and fun ways. We will all lose our shirts in some future bubble again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of course, the situational context that brought the iPod into being will never exist again. Never again will an atmosphere exist like the one in the late 90s.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now wait a minute. Are you speaking here of the context of &#8220;digital music players&#8221; or of &#8220;technology in the 90&#8217;s&#8221; in general? Sure, you&#8217;re probably right about the first, but certainly not about the second. Of course there will again be a moment like the 1990&#8217;s: there will again be a time when some personal technology moves from the margins to the mainstream, possibly disrupting old industries in some unpredictable and fun ways. We will all lose our shirts in some future bubble again.</p>
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		<title>By: pauric</title>
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		<dc:creator>pauric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can&#039;t depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus&quot;
Mark Twain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can&#8217;t depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus&#8221;<br />
Mark Twain</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people miss the fact that the iPod is more than a sleek gadget. The iPod is the delicate mix of an integrated MP3 player, iTunes software that gets music from your CD collection to your iPod very easily and iTunes Store with it&#039;s one click music, TV show, and Movie purchase and audio and video podcast access. The itunes software gets anything in your collection to your iPod seamlessly.

The iPod design helped but the ease of use of the whole iPod ecosystem is what gave Apple the huge market share. It is not just industrial design but the blend of good design and well designed, intuitive software.

At 70% market share, Apple has sold over 100 million iPods in 5.5 years. The yearly global market for cell phones is 1.6 billion. If Apple gets a 2.5% market share for iPhone, it will be selling more iPhones than iPods per year. That is doable and that is another big hit. Bank on it.

In case anyone asks, Microsoft&#039;s share of the cell phone OS market is less than 0.5%. Apple will pass Microsoft&#039;s cell phone share by next January.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people miss the fact that the iPod is more than a sleek gadget. The iPod is the delicate mix of an integrated MP3 player, iTunes software that gets music from your CD collection to your iPod very easily and iTunes Store with it&#8217;s one click music, TV show, and Movie purchase and audio and video podcast access. The itunes software gets anything in your collection to your iPod seamlessly.</p>
<p>The iPod design helped but the ease of use of the whole iPod ecosystem is what gave Apple the huge market share. It is not just industrial design but the blend of good design and well designed, intuitive software.</p>
<p>At 70% market share, Apple has sold over 100 million iPods in 5.5 years. The yearly global market for cell phones is 1.6 billion. If Apple gets a 2.5% market share for iPhone, it will be selling more iPhones than iPods per year. That is doable and that is another big hit. Bank on it.</p>
<p>In case anyone asks, Microsoft&#8217;s share of the cell phone OS market is less than 0.5%. Apple will pass Microsoft&#8217;s cell phone share by next January.</p>
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		<title>By: John Koetsier</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Koetsier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, and a typical problem: we see the product of others&#039; labor, but the process is largely invisible. We want the fruits, but we forget the roots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, and a typical problem: we see the product of others&#8217; labor, but the process is largely invisible. We want the fruits, but we forget the roots.</p>
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		<title>By: Snafu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snafu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Although the writer concentrates on the style issues, curiously. Strangely, I would have criticised the fact that there are easier shapes to handle than a beveled brick)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Although the writer concentrates on the style issues, curiously. Strangely, I would have criticised the fact that there are easier shapes to handle than a beveled brick)</p>
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		<title>By: Snafu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snafu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that page seems to be warning us not to confuse design with style, and I concur: many Apple products look great, but show serious design issues. Design is about solving problems, not about just looking good and being somewhat easy to manage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that page seems to be warning us not to confuse design with style, and I concur: many Apple products look great, but show serious design issues. Design is about solving problems, not about just looking good and being somewhat easy to manage.</p>
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		<title>By: ~bc</title>
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		<dc:creator>~bc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is no way that the iPhone can be as successful as the iPodâ€¦ The iPod has 70% market share. The iPhone will be lucky to grab 5%.

It depends on your metric for success. Also, 5% of the world phone market (at $4-500/ea) might be as successful as 70% of the digital audio player market. Heck, some people might call the iPhone a success right now, considering it&#039;s current mindshare. It&#039;s market needs a disruption anyhow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is no way that the iPhone can be as successful as the iPodâ€¦ The iPod has 70% market share. The iPhone will be lucky to grab 5%.</p>
<p>It depends on your metric for success. Also, 5% of the world phone market (at $4-500/ea) might be as successful as 70% of the digital audio player market. Heck, some people might call the iPhone a success right now, considering it&#8217;s current mindshare. It&#8217;s market needs a disruption anyhow.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt. Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt. Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read this: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.designobserver.com/archives/024593.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What If Apple Is Bad for Design?&lt;/a&gt;

I&#039;m unsure if I get to the point of the author, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read this: <a href="http://www.designobserver.com/archives/024593.html" rel="nofollow">What If Apple Is Bad for Design?</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m unsure if I get to the point of the author, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Krishna Kumar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krishna Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every major success story has the same problem. People don&#039;t see all that went into the making of that success. They just take 1 or 2 major factors behind the success and try to follow that. Most imitations fail for this same reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every major success story has the same problem. People don&#8217;t see all that went into the making of that success. They just take 1 or 2 major factors behind the success and try to follow that. Most imitations fail for this same reason.</p>
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