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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-253072</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, forgot to add Instapaper.com to that, because I didn't know about it, ran across it doing a twitter search for laterloop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, forgot to add Instapaper.com to that, because I didn&#8217;t know about it, ran across it doing a twitter search for laterloop.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-253070</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Laterloop, another alternative (also with Firefox extension) is Read It Later: http://readitlaterlist.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Laterloop, another alternative (also with Firefox extension) is Read It Later: <a href="http://readitlaterlist.com/" rel="nofollow">http://readitlaterlist.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dlittle</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-223476</link>
		<dc:creator>Dlittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The gun-rights activists like to assume the first frame…that we are sovereign over the technology we create and it doesn’t change us. Guns don’t kill humans, humans kill humans. On CNN the other day was a photo of a protester holding up a sign: “if guns kill humans, do pencils write books?”."


That works both ways, and the framers of the Constitution knew it. When a nations people is unable to resist the will of it's government, the government will behave most differently. They didn't trust government, zealots or those in power very much. I think they got it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The gun-rights activists like to assume the first frame…that we are sovereign over the technology we create and it doesn’t change us. Guns don’t kill humans, humans kill humans. On CNN the other day was a photo of a protester holding up a sign: “if guns kill humans, do pencils write books?”.&#8221;</p>
<p>That works both ways, and the framers of the Constitution knew it. When a nations people is unable to resist the will of it&#8217;s government, the government will behave most differently. They didn&#8217;t trust government, zealots or those in power very much. I think they got it right.</p>
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		<title>By: Rui Alao</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-222597</link>
		<dc:creator>Rui Alao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! Very nice article! There's a paper by Humberto Maturana called Metadesign that deals with this very issue: co-evolution between user and technology. If you search on Google by Maturana and Metadesign you'll find it right away. But just try it if you REALLy like some philosophical texts because it's heavy stuff.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! Very nice article! There&#8217;s a paper by Humberto Maturana called Metadesign that deals with this very issue: co-evolution between user and technology. If you search on Google by Maturana and Metadesign you&#8217;ll find it right away. But just try it if you REALLy like some philosophical texts because it&#8217;s heavy stuff.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: super 1 store</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-219716</link>
		<dc:creator>super 1 store</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In other words, we change technology by creating it, and then it changes us as we use it. And whttp://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/Read "RE: Homade bread vs. 6 loaves/1 store stuff" at Countryside Families Forum It wouldn't bother [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In other words, we change technology by creating it, and then it changes us as we use it. And whttp://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/Read &#8220;RE: Homade bread vs. 6 loaves/1 store stuff&#8221; at Countryside Families Forum It wouldn&#8217;t bother [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Max Design - standards based web design, development and training &#187; Some links for light reading (8/7/08)</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-213191</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Design - standards based web design, development and training &#187; Some links for light reading (8/7/08)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-212735</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#7: For that matter, you might also cite Berger &#38; Luckmann's "The Social Construction of Reality." Basically, when it come to the interplay between technology, society and cognition, it's probably too hard to tell what is influencing what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#7: For that matter, you might also cite Berger &amp; Luckmann&#8217;s &#8220;The Social Construction of Reality.&#8221; Basically, when it come to the interplay between technology, society and cognition, it&#8217;s probably too hard to tell what is influencing what.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzi</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-212511</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a broad sense, biological co-evolution is "the change of a biological object triggered by the change of a related object".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a broad sense, biological co-evolution is &#8220;the change of a biological object triggered by the change of a related object&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Niels</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-210846</link>
		<dc:creator>Niels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 07:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the point you are making here that if the threshold for ease of use is low people will use it more. Add 'availability' and 'price' to that spectrum and you know why certain products are sold well or not. 

I don't believe technology itself is changing us but that those companies who succeed in using the technology in such a way that it is beneficial for customers; (easy to use, available and affordable) gradually do change our lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point you are making here that if the threshold for ease of use is low people will use it more. Add &#8216;availability&#8217; and &#8216;price&#8217; to that spectrum and you know why certain products are sold well or not. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe technology itself is changing us but that those companies who succeed in using the technology in such a way that it is beneficial for customers; (easy to use, available and affordable) gradually do change our lives.</p>
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		<title>By: SocialStartups.com &#187; Co-evolution</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-209371</link>
		<dc:creator>SocialStartups.com &#187; Co-evolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Porter wrote an article about the co-evolution of humans and technology, which I think should be expanded further. To start, a little background from the one semester [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-209365</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this post for a variety of reasons but one is that it's a great illustration of just how connected change is to the tools you use. Oftentimes, people will say "it's not about the tool, it's about change" but these two things are very intertwined. 

As well, &lt;a href="http://gobigalways.com/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&#38;post=297" rel="nofollow"&gt;your "co-evolve" idea fits well into the COLORS framework I posted about recently. &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this post for a variety of reasons but one is that it&#8217;s a great illustration of just how connected change is to the tools you use. Oftentimes, people will say &#8220;it&#8217;s not about the tool, it&#8217;s about change&#8221; but these two things are very intertwined. </p>
<p>As well, <a href="http://gobigalways.com/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&amp;post=297" rel="nofollow">your &#8220;co-evolve&#8221; idea fits well into the COLORS framework I posted about recently. </a></p>
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		<title>By: Petra Liverani</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-209301</link>
		<dc:creator>Petra Liverani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another argument against the guns-people / pencils-books analogy is that people can write books using a variety of tools whereas although there are probably even more methods to kill people, a gun is a tool that makes it much, much easier. I'm sure a lot of people who've killed people with guns wouldn't have used the other methods available if they hadn't had a gun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another argument against the guns-people / pencils-books analogy is that people can write books using a variety of tools whereas although there are probably even more methods to kill people, a gun is a tool that makes it much, much easier. I&#8217;m sure a lot of people who&#8217;ve killed people with guns wouldn&#8217;t have used the other methods available if they hadn&#8217;t had a gun.</p>
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		<title>By: Favorieten en bookmarks voor 1 July tot 3 July &#124; Cafe del Marketing</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-209218</link>
		<dc:creator>Favorieten en bookmarks voor 1 July tot 3 July &#124; Cafe del Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Good</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-208805</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joshua, In case you haven't come across it before, there is a lot of work in cognitive science about how our environment, particularly the new technologies we surround ourselves with, fundamentally changes not only what we think about but &lt;i&gt;how&lt;/i&gt; we think.  My favorite prof from undergrad wrote a great (if a bit academicy) book on the topic called "Cognition in the Wild" in which he explores how the use (and design) of different technologies affects how people navigate the oceans and the skies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joshua, In case you haven&#8217;t come across it before, there is a lot of work in cognitive science about how our environment, particularly the new technologies we surround ourselves with, fundamentally changes not only what we think about but <i>how</i> we think.  My favorite prof from undergrad wrote a great (if a bit academicy) book on the topic called &#8220;Cognition in the Wild&#8221; in which he explores how the use (and design) of different technologies affects how people navigate the oceans and the skies.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Kaufman</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/co-evolving/#comment-208796</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Kaufman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious if you've tried ReadBag or compared it to LaterLoop?  I've been using ReadBag and really enjoy it.  How does LaterLoop differ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious if you&#8217;ve tried ReadBag or compared it to LaterLoop?  I&#8217;ve been using ReadBag and really enjoy it.  How does LaterLoop differ?</p>
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