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		<title>By: Daily Links &#124; Akkam's Razor</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/extending-the-circles-of-relationships/#comment-153282</link>
		<dc:creator>Daily Links &#124; Akkam's Razor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Extending the Circles of Relationships - Bokardo (tags: relationships visualization social SocialNetworking identity SocialNetwork bokardo) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Importance of &#8220;People like Me&#8221; features - Bokardo</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/extending-the-circles-of-relationships/#comment-153193</link>
		<dc:creator>The Importance of &#8220;People like Me&#8221; features - Bokardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We already see many features which take advantage of this, such as grouping features, demographic filters, &#8220;people who shopped for this also shopped for&#8221;, and many others. Folks mentioned around the idea of Circles of Relationships. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We already see many features which take advantage of this, such as grouping features, demographic filters, &#8220;people who shopped for this also shopped for&#8221;, and many others. Folks mentioned around the idea of Circles of Relationships. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Shneiderman</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/extending-the-circles-of-relationships/#comment-143690</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Shneiderman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm pleased to see this discussion about circles of relationship.  Of course any four level hierarchy is too simple to capture the richness of human relationships.  My goal was a simple understandable structure that was based on the degree of shared knowledge, trust, and likelihood of future encounters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pleased to see this discussion about circles of relationship.  Of course any four level hierarchy is too simple to capture the richness of human relationships.  My goal was a simple understandable structure that was based on the degree of shared knowledge, trust, and likelihood of future encounters.</p>
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		<title>By: Círculos de relación - K-Government - Thinking in e-Government</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/extending-the-circles-of-relationships/#comment-143337</link>
		<dc:creator>Círculos de relación - K-Government - Thinking in e-Government</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Esos círculos son concéntricos y los podemos diferenciar en función de quien los compone. En Bokardo he encontrado unos gráficos que lo ilustran a la perfección. Podéis leer su post para ver como se conforman esos círculos de relación. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Esos círculos son concéntricos y los podemos diferenciar en función de quien los compone. En Bokardo he encontrado unos gráficos que lo ilustran a la perfección. Podéis leer su post para ver como se conforman esos círculos de relación. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-06-15 at Framtider.net</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/extending-the-circles-of-relationships/#comment-143078</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-06-15 at Framtider.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bokardo: Extending the Circles of Relationships &#8220;I really like Mather’s idea of &#8216;people like us&#8217;, and I think it works, but that group isn’t necessarily valuable in all situations. Not only do each of us assign trust in different ways /&#8230;/ but we do so differently in each activity that we do.&#8221; (tags: facebook myspace community den_sociala_webben circle_of_relationships visualisering bokardo) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bokardo: Extending the Circles of Relationships &#8220;I really like Mather’s idea of &#8216;people like us&#8217;, and I think it works, but that group isn’t necessarily valuable in all situations. Not only do each of us assign trust in different ways /&#8230;/ but we do so differently in each activity that we do.&#8221; (tags: facebook myspace community den_sociala_webben circle_of_relationships visualisering bokardo) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Extending the Circles of Relationships &#160;&#187;Technology News &#124; Venture Capital, Startups, Silicon Valley, Web 2.0 Tech</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/extending-the-circles-of-relationships/#comment-142961</link>
		<dc:creator>Extending the Circles of Relationships &#160;&#187;Technology News &#124; Venture Capital, Startups, Silicon Valley, Web 2.0 Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Source:Megite Technology News: What&#8217;s Happening Right Now   Several folks pushed back on my circles of relationships post last week. Most people thought Shneiderman&#8217;s diagram just wasn&#8217;t complex enough in describing social networks, arguing that most relationships are too dynamic to be represented in this way. (Read on Source)        Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Source:Megite Technology News: What&#8217;s Happening Right Now   Several folks pushed back on my circles of relationships post last week. Most people thought Shneiderman&#8217;s diagram just wasn&#8217;t complex enough in describing social networks, arguing that most relationships are too dynamic to be represented in this way. (Read on Source)        Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Library clips :: Attention widgets and an attention rant&#8230; :: June :: 2007</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/extending-the-circles-of-relationships/#comment-142950</link>
		<dc:creator>Library clips :: Attention widgets and an attention rant&#8230; :: June :: 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Another element to the recommendation filter may be built around trust&#8230;this is a meme going round started by Bokardo, and refined by Sarah Cooper&#8230;came across this via Green Chameleon. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Another element to the recommendation filter may be built around trust&#8230;this is a meme going round started by Bokardo, and refined by Sarah Cooper&#8230;came across this via Green Chameleon. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Web Design</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/extending-the-circles-of-relationships/#comment-142838</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These rings are inextricably linked and there is overlap. Does this leave no room for friends who are also colleagues?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These rings are inextricably linked and there is overlap. Does this leave no room for friends who are also colleagues?</p>
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		<title>By: Kahuki Directory</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/extending-the-circles-of-relationships/#comment-142799</link>
		<dc:creator>Kahuki Directory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never thought about a “people like us” ring, but it is a great idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never thought about a “people like us” ring, but it is a great idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Communities vs Networks &#124; SoulSoup: e-learning blog, elearning blog, knowledge management, e-learning strategy, learning experience design, usability</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/extending-the-circles-of-relationships/#comment-142784</link>
		<dc:creator>Communities vs Networks &#124; SoulSoup: e-learning blog, elearning blog, knowledge management, e-learning strategy, learning experience design, usability</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 03:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I am not saying that those networks can&#8217;t be used for contextual conversation. LinkedIn Answers is certainly one of the exceptions, and we need to wait and see how (and if) the new Facebook Platform makes a difference. But certainly the inherited environment of those networks don&#8217;t promote the concept of a community. On the other hand - the Internet Time Community at Ning is definitely a community. There people are coming with one particular agenda and focus in mind, the context (Organizational Learning) is the king there. Also, recently Patrick Lambe pointed out in a blogpost : &#8230;how fragmentary and provisional such visualisations are. It all started with Josh Porter who has been blogging (here and here) on how we form networks that look like concentric circles, where trust dissipates outwards, using Ben Shneiderman’s “Circles of Relationships” visualisation. He got a lot of push back from folks who felt that this visualisation was too static and wasn’t adequate to the true complexity of human relationships. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I am not saying that those networks can&#8217;t be used for contextual conversation. LinkedIn Answers is certainly one of the exceptions, and we need to wait and see how (and if) the new Facebook Platform makes a difference. But certainly the inherited environment of those networks don&#8217;t promote the concept of a community. On the other hand - the Internet Time Community at Ning is definitely a community. There people are coming with one particular agenda and focus in mind, the context (Organizational Learning) is the king there. Also, recently Patrick Lambe pointed out in a blogpost : &#8230;how fragmentary and provisional such visualisations are. It all started with Josh Porter who has been blogging (here and here) on how we form networks that look like concentric circles, where trust dissipates outwards, using Ben Shneiderman’s “Circles of Relationships” visualisation. He got a lot of push back from folks who felt that this visualisation was too static and wasn’t adequate to the true complexity of human relationships. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The return of personal digital assistants : My Curious Life</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/extending-the-circles-of-relationships/#comment-142727</link>
		<dc:creator>The return of personal digital assistants : My Curious Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 23:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joshua Porter made a fantastic post yesterday that expanded upon his post the previous week, discussing circles of relationships and how each circle has a special significance to us as individuals. His follow-up post includes Ben Shneiderman&#8217;s original circles of relationships diagram, as well as a fantastic variation provided by Alex Mather and a beautifully dynamic Flash relationship example by Sarah Cooper. All of these examples try to categorize and map our trust relationships with others, but Sarah&#8217;s seems to document it best by showing how it changes with context. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Joshua Porter made a fantastic post yesterday that expanded upon his post the previous week, discussing circles of relationships and how each circle has a special significance to us as individuals. His follow-up post includes Ben Shneiderman&#8217;s original circles of relationships diagram, as well as a fantastic variation provided by Alex Mather and a beautifully dynamic Flash relationship example by Sarah Cooper. All of these examples try to categorize and map our trust relationships with others, but Sarah&#8217;s seems to document it best by showing how it changes with context. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: leafar</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/extending-the-circles-of-relationships/#comment-142722</link>
		<dc:creator>leafar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 22:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry i pinged the wrong post the older one ;-(
My service is using collaborative micro fitering on tags for entertainment. The details are on my blog.
Great post. I will use your graphics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry i pinged the wrong post the older one ;-(<br />
My service is using collaborative micro fitering on tags for entertainment. The details are on my blog.<br />
Great post. I will use your graphics.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Grier</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/extending-the-circles-of-relationships/#comment-142721</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Grier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 21:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I research this topic, the more I'm convinced that there is not one social networking solution for all, though Facebook and MySpace would have you think that.

Niche social networks are springing up..MyRagan for communications professionals, MyVault (ScotiaBank's network for customers and people interested in banking) are just two.

So what does your selection of social network(s) have to say about you? I have a relationship with Joe (your good friend) through Facebook, but Joe doesn't think MyVault is any good, and that weakens our relationship.

What impressions do you project by your selection of a social media / relationship site?

And how do you select the social media site that's right for you and your 'friends'?

Using that excellent concept of 'People Like Us' to work with, how do you define 'People Like Us'  when the selection of a different social network changes your 'People Like Us' affiliation? 

There is obviously more to be discussed on this, and I'm looking forward to the conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I research this topic, the more I&#8217;m convinced that there is not one social networking solution for all, though Facebook and MySpace would have you think that.</p>
<p>Niche social networks are springing up..MyRagan for communications professionals, MyVault (ScotiaBank&#8217;s network for customers and people interested in banking) are just two.</p>
<p>So what does your selection of social network(s) have to say about you? I have a relationship with Joe (your good friend) through Facebook, but Joe doesn&#8217;t think MyVault is any good, and that weakens our relationship.</p>
<p>What impressions do you project by your selection of a social media / relationship site?</p>
<p>And how do you select the social media site that&#8217;s right for you and your &#8216;friends&#8217;?</p>
<p>Using that excellent concept of &#8216;People Like Us&#8217; to work with, how do you define &#8216;People Like Us&#8217;  when the selection of a different social network changes your &#8216;People Like Us&#8217; affiliation? </p>
<p>There is obviously more to be discussed on this, and I&#8217;m looking forward to the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Cooper</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/extending-the-circles-of-relationships/#comment-142720</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 19:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anders - Although I think complexity on the backend is good, I agree that complexity for the user on the frontend, is not. The point is not to add complexity for the user, but to simplify. Thinking about each of the people we know individually, and recognizing that each relationship is unique, actually mirrors the real world more and adds less work than asking the user to categorize the people they know by "friends," "family," "colleagues," etc. 

I thought it might be neat instead to be able to provide a rating of how similar you think you are to that person - because you probably know this best. Over time though, the system would learn more about you and the people in your network through ratings/purchases/etc., and be able to adjust that similarity index. Then again, maybe the system can just tell us how similar we are - for example when I look at my friend on Netflix, it tells me that I have 74% similarity to him when it comes to movies. I think that information is interesting, and I think users will find it interesting as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anders - Although I think complexity on the backend is good, I agree that complexity for the user on the frontend, is not. The point is not to add complexity for the user, but to simplify. Thinking about each of the people we know individually, and recognizing that each relationship is unique, actually mirrors the real world more and adds less work than asking the user to categorize the people they know by &#8220;friends,&#8221; &#8220;family,&#8221; &#8220;colleagues,&#8221; etc. </p>
<p>I thought it might be neat instead to be able to provide a rating of how similar you think you are to that person - because you probably know this best. Over time though, the system would learn more about you and the people in your network through ratings/purchases/etc., and be able to adjust that similarity index. Then again, maybe the system can just tell us how similar we are - for example when I look at my friend on Netflix, it tells me that I have 74% similarity to him when it comes to movies. I think that information is interesting, and I think users will find it interesting as well.</p>
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		<title>By: jonathan. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-05-30</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonathan. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-05-30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 12:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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