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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/interface-design-writing-and-sincerity/comment-page-1/#comment-182327</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the irony of me having to look up the word "incertitude" in a discussion about clarity :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the irony of me having to look up the word &#8220;incertitude&#8221; in a discussion about clarity <img src='http://bokardo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Berta Berlin</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/interface-design-writing-and-sincerity/comment-page-1/#comment-182289</link>
		<dc:creator>Berta Berlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think in the case of interface design, there's another factor: It's incertitude. Make too much words because you never know if your customer gets the point.
I live the rule: "If you're done with your text, discard 50% of the words." (don't know who's the originator).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think in the case of interface design, there&#8217;s another factor: It&#8217;s incertitude. Make too much words because you never know if your customer gets the point.<br />
I live the rule: &#8220;If you&#8217;re done with your text, discard 50% of the words.&#8221; (don&#8217;t know who&#8217;s the originator).</p>
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		<title>By: interaction design</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/interface-design-writing-and-sincerity/comment-page-1/#comment-180941</link>
		<dc:creator>interaction design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 22:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely, his statement still holds today. But I think insincerity on the internet is not so successful in terms of making money. Today honesty and good content is what counts. 

Ofcourse also in design, a few decades ago we couldn't choose and now with competition we have (too) much to choose from, so sincerity definitely plays an important role as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely, his statement still holds today. But I think insincerity on the internet is not so successful in terms of making money. Today honesty and good content is what counts. </p>
<p>Ofcourse also in design, a few decades ago we couldn&#8217;t choose and now with competition we have (too) much to choose from, so sincerity definitely plays an important role as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Strong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 20:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dead on, of course, but the irony is that Orwell uses big words to explain his point. Makes me think that Orwell wasn't all that sincere about it after all...

~Graham</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dead on, of course, but the irony is that Orwell uses big words to explain his point. Makes me think that Orwell wasn&#8217;t all that sincere about it after all&#8230;</p>
<p>~Graham</p>
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		<title>By: Interface design, writing, and sincerity</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/interface-design-writing-and-sincerity/comment-page-1/#comment-179873</link>
		<dc:creator>Interface design, writing, and sincerity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] abduzeedo wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptOver time, I’m having more and more conversations about the similarities between interface design and writing. Here’sa great quote from George Orwell, who wrote 1984 and Animal Farm, that made me instantly think of interface design. &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] abduzeedo wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptOver time, I’m having more and more conversations about the similarities between interface design and writing. Here’sa great quote from George Orwell, who wrote 1984 and Animal Farm, that made me instantly think of interface design. &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marcello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who works in academia, I couldn't agree more strongly with Orwell's quote. Academics teach grammar, punctuation and spelling, but they rarely teach clarity. Students are often judged by the quantity of their writing, not the quality of their thinking. And the academics themselves are often responsible for the most obtuse, convoluted and unreadable literary atrocities. They seem to subscribe to a variation of the old cliche: "If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with excessive syllables."  

And of course, the same principle applies to design. "If we animate everything they won't notice that our content and products are crap!" Which actually seemed to work for the first few years of the internet, but most folks seem to have become a bit wiser... except, perhaps, for the academics!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who works in academia, I couldn&#8217;t agree more strongly with Orwell&#8217;s quote. Academics teach grammar, punctuation and spelling, but they rarely teach clarity. Students are often judged by the quantity of their writing, not the quality of their thinking. And the academics themselves are often responsible for the most obtuse, convoluted and unreadable literary atrocities. They seem to subscribe to a variation of the old cliche: &#8220;If you can&#8217;t dazzle &#8216;em with brilliance, baffle &#8216;em with excessive syllables.&#8221;  </p>
<p>And of course, the same principle applies to design. &#8220;If we animate everything they won&#8217;t notice that our content and products are crap!&#8221; Which actually seemed to work for the first few years of the internet, but most folks seem to have become a bit wiser&#8230; except, perhaps, for the academics!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/interface-design-writing-and-sincerity/comment-page-1/#comment-179749</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly, in the context of commercial design, the main enemy to good interfaces is insincerity. I have worked in such contexts all my life, and it's basically a daily struggle against those who would seek to be insincere for the purposes of making more money from unsuspecting users of the system being designed. 

Incidentally, Orwell &lt;a href="http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;expanded on the idea&lt;/a&gt; in a famous essay in 1946.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly, in the context of commercial design, the main enemy to good interfaces is insincerity. I have worked in such contexts all my life, and it&#8217;s basically a daily struggle against those who would seek to be insincere for the purposes of making more money from unsuspecting users of the system being designed. </p>
<p>Incidentally, Orwell <a href="http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm" rel="nofollow">expanded on the idea</a> in a famous essay in 1946.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Orwell quote is dead-on.  It also could be re-cast as "The great enemy of clear communication is failed sincerity."

Two other quotes pertain:

"First, I would straighten out the language."  That was the reply from Confucius when asked how he'd restore order to the world.

"Zealotry consists in re-doubling your efforts when you have lost sight of your aim."  That's from George Santayana.

The challenges for copywriter and designer are to maintain distance enough from the source (and the ostensible sincerity of the source) -- and objectivity enough for the target audience -- to render the message and the interface with due clarity.

That's about as sincere as it gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Orwell quote is dead-on.  It also could be re-cast as &#8220;The great enemy of clear communication is failed sincerity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Two other quotes pertain:</p>
<p>&#8220;First, I would straighten out the language.&#8221;  That was the reply from Confucius when asked how he&#8217;d restore order to the world.</p>
<p>&#8220;Zealotry consists in re-doubling your efforts when you have lost sight of your aim.&#8221;  That&#8217;s from George Santayana.</p>
<p>The challenges for copywriter and designer are to maintain distance enough from the source (and the ostensible sincerity of the source) &#8212; and objectivity enough for the target audience &#8212; to render the message and the interface with due clarity.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s about as sincere as it gets.</p>
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