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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/my-number-is-bigger-than-yours/#comment-123379</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact you just need to care about people (customers) and money will come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact you just need to care about people (customers) and money will come.</p>
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		<title>By: David H Dennis</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/my-number-is-bigger-than-yours/#comment-17065</link>
		<dc:creator>David H Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that money is everything and businesses are only in it to make money is, surprisingly, not always true.  Other goals exist and are often considered more important by the business owners.

Sure, making money is always a major goal.  But at the same time there is an idealistic streak in many companies that makes them do things against their financial best interest.

For example, a friend of mine built a haunted attraction.  He said it was for the money, but it was really to satisfy him.  So he put much more money into the house than it would ever bring back.  At one level, he knew this and at another level it didn't really matter to him because he wanted to gain personal satisfaction with the result.

A few people I have worked with have paid failing employees for months after it was abundently clear that they would not bring back any kind of decent return.  In one case, this form of payment was such a high percentage of revenues that it actually endangered the company.

Steve Jobs of Apple wants to make money, but I think he wants to make a great product, something he can be proud of, even more.

I'm building a social networking site not because I think it's what will make me the most money, but because I think it's the one thing I'm best at in the world and the space where I can genuinely make a difference.  

There are a lot safer things I could do that would probably bring me more money.  But life is partially about making money and partially about trying to find some kind of happiness in what you do.

I think many business owners are trying to look at both, and strike a balance between doing things good for the world and maximizing their profits.

D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that money is everything and businesses are only in it to make money is, surprisingly, not always true.  Other goals exist and are often considered more important by the business owners.</p>
<p>Sure, making money is always a major goal.  But at the same time there is an idealistic streak in many companies that makes them do things against their financial best interest.</p>
<p>For example, a friend of mine built a haunted attraction.  He said it was for the money, but it was really to satisfy him.  So he put much more money into the house than it would ever bring back.  At one level, he knew this and at another level it didn&#8217;t really matter to him because he wanted to gain personal satisfaction with the result.</p>
<p>A few people I have worked with have paid failing employees for months after it was abundently clear that they would not bring back any kind of decent return.  In one case, this form of payment was such a high percentage of revenues that it actually endangered the company.</p>
<p>Steve Jobs of Apple wants to make money, but I think he wants to make a great product, something he can be proud of, even more.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m building a social networking site not because I think it&#8217;s what will make me the most money, but because I think it&#8217;s the one thing I&#8217;m best at in the world and the space where I can genuinely make a difference.  </p>
<p>There are a lot safer things I could do that would probably bring me more money.  But life is partially about making money and partially about trying to find some kind of happiness in what you do.</p>
<p>I think many business owners are trying to look at both, and strike a balance between doing things good for the world and maximizing their profits.</p>
<p>D</p>
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		<title>By: bestwebdesignblogs.com &#187;</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/my-number-is-bigger-than-yours/#comment-16877</link>
		<dc:creator>bestwebdesignblogs.com &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My Number is Bigger than Yours I promise you this is not another article about Businessweek&#8217;s sensationalism, Kevin Rose&#8217;s net worth, whether or not Netscape is desperate, or the size of 37signal&#8217;s customer base. This is a short rant about lying to customers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My Number is Bigger than Yours I promise you this is not another article about Businessweek&#8217;s sensationalism, Kevin Rose&#8217;s net worth, whether or not Netscape is desperate, or the size of 37signal&#8217;s customer base. This is a short rant about lying to customers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/my-number-is-bigger-than-yours/#comment-16188</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The companies who tell outright lies in their stories will eventually be found out as more people use their product. Word of mouth takes care of false stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The companies who tell outright lies in their stories will eventually be found out as more people use their product. Word of mouth takes care of false stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/my-number-is-bigger-than-yours/#comment-15905</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Jared. Good thing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Jared. Good thing!</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Spool</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/my-number-is-bigger-than-yours/#comment-15875</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared Spool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 12:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a good thing &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt; businesses lie:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;
"Iraq tried to buy enriched uranium from Nigeria."

"Iraq has weapons of mass destruction."

"The Iraqi people will welcome us with open arms."

"Mission Accomplished."&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

etc., etc., etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good thing <em>only</em> businesses lie:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><br />
&#8220;Iraq tried to buy enriched uranium from Nigeria.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The Iraqi people will welcome us with open arms.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Mission Accomplished.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>etc., etc., etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Orion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great discussion.  I have to think hard about this because I also want to sleep on piles of money.  That's a hyperbole but it reveals my/our nature on the inside.  I just wouldn't want to lie to anyone to get there but aren't we trained to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great discussion.  I have to think hard about this because I also want to sleep on piles of money.  That&#8217;s a hyperbole but it reveals my/our nature on the inside.  I just wouldn&#8217;t want to lie to anyone to get there but aren&#8217;t we trained to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: .:dydimustk:. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Story is the Point</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/my-number-is-bigger-than-yours/#comment-15565</link>
		<dc:creator>.:dydimustk:. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Story is the Point</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 19:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That’s what’s going on here. Saying something doesn’t make it true. Never has, never will. But truth is hardly the point here. The story is the point. - from bokardo.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That’s what’s going on here. Saying something doesn’t make it true. Never has, never will. But truth is hardly the point here. The story is the point. - from bokardo.com [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Reuven</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/my-number-is-bigger-than-yours/#comment-15546</link>
		<dc:creator>Reuven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 14:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What amazed me wasn't Kevin Rose on the cover of Business Week for running a company that barely breaks even...what amazed me was seeing KEVIN ROSE on the cover of &lt;a href="http://www.baytzim.com/digg" rel="nofollow"&gt;PEOPLE MAGAZINE!&lt;/a&gt;.
Way to go, Kev! We're so proud of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What amazed me wasn&#8217;t Kevin Rose on the cover of Business Week for running a company that barely breaks even&#8230;what amazed me was seeing KEVIN ROSE on the cover of <a href="http://www.baytzim.com/digg" rel="nofollow">PEOPLE MAGAZINE!</a>.<br />
Way to go, Kev! We&#8217;re so proud of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/my-number-is-bigger-than-yours/#comment-15487</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 17:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get burned all the time, but there was no specific issue that motivated me to write this.

I was just thinking about why companies over-inflate numbers in general. Is it to make themselves feel better, influence customers, or because nobody is watching them? 

Those are three possibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get burned all the time, but there was no specific issue that motivated me to write this.</p>
<p>I was just thinking about why companies over-inflate numbers in general. Is it to make themselves feel better, influence customers, or because nobody is watching them? </p>
<p>Those are three possibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Barth</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/my-number-is-bigger-than-yours/#comment-15473</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Barth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, here is my rant:

&#62; Because they’re too busy leading their lives to
&#62; care about what companies are really doing.

Today we are permanent customers. Probably we're even customers while we are sleeping. We are completely soaked up in being customers. In fact, you could pose the question: is there anything that we are being more than being customers?

So, yeah: Busy lives. Busy with ever being customer somewhere else.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, here is my rant:</p>
<p>&gt; Because they’re too busy leading their lives to<br />
&gt; care about what companies are really doing.</p>
<p>Today we are permanent customers. Probably we&#8217;re even customers while we are sleeping. We are completely soaked up in being customers. In fact, you could pose the question: is there anything that we are being more than being customers?</p>
<p>So, yeah: Busy lives. Busy with ever being customer somewhere else.</p>
<p> <img src='http://bokardo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Watkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. What happened? This sounds a bit like a personal I-just-got-burned rant...

Of course, I'm not saying you're wrong. I think you're 100% right in the general case. While there are honest companies, they are rarer than I'd like.

And don't forget, even dishonest companies have honest employees: I've spoken off the record with customers, prospects and even potential employees before to quietly set the record straight when I think someone has been egregiously dishonest with them. Naturally, I start any such discussion by signalling that I'll completely deny ever having the discussion &#8212; which is probably itself self-serving and dishonest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. What happened? This sounds a bit like a personal I-just-got-burned rant&#8230;</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m not saying you&#8217;re wrong. I think you&#8217;re 100% right in the general case. While there are honest companies, they are rarer than I&#8217;d like.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget, even dishonest companies have honest employees: I&#8217;ve spoken off the record with customers, prospects and even potential employees before to quietly set the record straight when I think someone has been egregiously dishonest with them. Naturally, I start any such discussion by signalling that I&#8217;ll completely deny ever having the discussion &mdash; which is probably itself self-serving and dishonest.</p>
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