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		<title>By: Dubroy.com/blog &#187; Graphics for summarizing customer reviews</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/on-increasingly-sophisticated-social-interfaces/#comment-147377</link>
		<dc:creator>Dubroy.com/blog &#187; Graphics for summarizing customer reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A few weeks ago, Joshua Porter wrote about how Amazon.com improved the way they display a summary of user reviews: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: betatrom</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/on-increasingly-sophisticated-social-interfaces/#comment-146506</link>
		<dc:creator>betatrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this great site with the top 100 eBooks all available as free mp3 download.  Check it out.

&lt;a href="http://www.booksshouldbefree.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;www.BooksShouldBeFree.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this great site with the top 100 eBooks all available as free mp3 download.  Check it out.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.booksshouldbefree.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.BooksShouldBeFree.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: En vrac</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/on-increasingly-sophisticated-social-interfaces/#comment-146380</link>
		<dc:creator>En vrac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pourquoi Amazon est leader mondial dans son domaine ? Parceque son équipe améliore son interface jour après jour (en [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pourquoi Amazon est leader mondial dans son domaine ? Parceque son équipe améliore son interface jour après jour (en [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fresh: новости мира юзабилити &#187; Blog Archive &#187; На тему все более сложных социальных интерфейсов</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/on-increasingly-sophisticated-social-interfaces/#comment-146372</link>
		<dc:creator>Fresh: новости мира юзабилити &#187; Blog Archive &#187; На тему все более сложных социальных интерфейсов</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 08:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  On Increasingly Sophisticated Social Interfaces [...]</description>
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		<title>By: FredTheSwiss</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/on-increasingly-sophisticated-social-interfaces/#comment-146263</link>
		<dc:creator>FredTheSwiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 14:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem"

Enjoy this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam_razor

Microsoft: What can we had on our new mouse?
Apple: What can we remove from our new mouse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem&#8221;</p>
<p>Enjoy this page:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam_razor" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam_razor</a></p>
<p>Microsoft: What can we had on our new mouse?<br />
Apple: What can we remove from our new mouse?</p>
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		<title>By: FredTheSwiss</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/on-increasingly-sophisticated-social-interfaces/#comment-146262</link>
		<dc:creator>FredTheSwiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A complex solution will be difficult to be understood. (but closer to the reality)
A simple solution will be wrong (too abstract and skipping part of the problem).

As designers we need to balance that....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A complex solution will be difficult to be understood. (but closer to the reality)<br />
A simple solution will be wrong (too abstract and skipping part of the problem).</p>
<p>As designers we need to balance that&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: sarahcpr &#187; Blog Archive &#187; User Ratings</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/on-increasingly-sophisticated-social-interfaces/#comment-146248</link>
		<dc:creator>sarahcpr &#187; Blog Archive &#187; User Ratings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] totally agree with Joshua Porter about Amazon&#8217;s new review interface - it&#8217;s awesome. It provides even greater insight [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] totally agree with Joshua Porter about Amazon&#8217;s new review interface - it&#8217;s awesome. It provides even greater insight [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon R. Vaughan</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/on-increasingly-sophisticated-social-interfaces/#comment-146186</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon R. Vaughan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the way Amazon keeps making little tweaks to their site and systems. They're more willing to try things and so they continually improve.

Also, I've noticed I'm gradually doing more social-network type stuff on Amazon. I'm not writing a blog there, but gradually starting to accumulate friends and leave comments and reviews, of course.

It seems unlikely, but I have wondered lately if maybe Amazon will end up being a significant social network beyond just reviews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the way Amazon keeps making little tweaks to their site and systems. They&#8217;re more willing to try things and so they continually improve.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve noticed I&#8217;m gradually doing more social-network type stuff on Amazon. I&#8217;m not writing a blog there, but gradually starting to accumulate friends and leave comments and reviews, of course.</p>
<p>It seems unlikely, but I have wondered lately if maybe Amazon will end up being a significant social network beyond just reviews.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classic example of polarized reviews:
&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Wendy-O-Williams-Plasmatics-Revolutionary/dp/B000IU3YF0/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-8815506-4310336?ie=UTF8&#38;s=dvd&#38;qid=1189006179&#38;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow"&gt;this DVD review&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classic example of polarized reviews:<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Wendy-O-Williams-Plasmatics-Revolutionary/dp/B000IU3YF0/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-8815506-4310336?ie=UTF8&amp;s=dvd&amp;qid=1189006179&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">this DVD review</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Rahul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rahul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post. I find myself in the situation of having to defend Amazon's many UI innovations frequently as I work at a software development company with mainly programmers whose reactions to Amazon usually have something to do with complaining about clutter and how it's supposedly hard to navigate. Each and every time I have to go and reiterate that Amazon was an early mover with many of today's web UI conventions and that "business" on a shopping site isn't necessarily a bad thing. Posts like this are definitely bookmarkable for future reference of this kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. I find myself in the situation of having to defend Amazon&#8217;s many UI innovations frequently as I work at a software development company with mainly programmers whose reactions to Amazon usually have something to do with complaining about clutter and how it&#8217;s supposedly hard to navigate. Each and every time I have to go and reiterate that Amazon was an early mover with many of today&#8217;s web UI conventions and that &#8220;business&#8221; on a shopping site isn&#8217;t necessarily a bad thing. Posts like this are definitely bookmarkable for future reference of this kind.</p>
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		<title>By: bam</title>
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		<dc:creator>bam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>these days everybody is pushing towards the apple way of doing things (true minimalism) and while that is a good thing in some cases however it cannot be applied in others. instead of writing an essay here i'll just finish with one quote and hopefully you'll get it to heart

"less is more is only true when more is simply too much"  Frank Lloyd Wright</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these days everybody is pushing towards the apple way of doing things (true minimalism) and while that is a good thing in some cases however it cannot be applied in others. instead of writing an essay here i&#8217;ll just finish with one quote and hopefully you&#8217;ll get it to heart</p>
<p>&#8220;less is more is only true when more is simply too much&#8221;  Frank Lloyd Wright</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Meagher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Meagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post. The design zeitgeist nowadays seems to be pushing minimalism, which I agree with, but it should always be taken with a grain of salt. There's a fine line between dull and elegant, and designers must tread lightly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. The design zeitgeist nowadays seems to be pushing minimalism, which I agree with, but it should always be taken with a grain of salt. There&#8217;s a fine line between dull and elegant, and designers must tread lightly.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Day</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree with you that more is more. I really enjoyed reading Bret Victor's "&lt;a href="Magic Ink
Information Software and the Graphical Interface"&gt;Magic Ink: Information Software and the Graphical Interface&lt;/a&gt;", in which he shows examples of placing tick marks just underneath the stars. I think that's a brilliant way to display the same data Amazon displays much more succinctly and compactly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree with you that more is more. I really enjoyed reading Bret Victor&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="Magic Ink<br />
Information Software and the Graphical Interface">Magic Ink: Information Software and the Graphical Interface</a>&#8220;, in which he shows examples of placing tick marks just underneath the stars. I think that&#8217;s a brilliant way to display the same data Amazon displays much more succinctly and compactly.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Case</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/on-increasingly-sophisticated-social-interfaces/#comment-146043</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the example you showed with regards to showing how a certain instance of a complex interaction can be improved by a more sophisticated interface element, but I wouldn't extend it as any comment on whether taking features out of, or adding more features into a product makes it better.

I think that's a much broader question that can't be discussed within the context of the amazon ratings example you showed.  What I see that you are saying is that a complex problem may require a complex answer, and I don't see that as being in disagreement with the less is more philosophy.

I think it's still a big problem that too much noise is being added to products and I'll use that amazon item page as example: tagging?  forums?  amapedia?  askville?

In theory it's a good rallying call to get designers to really think about each and every feature they add, and in practice it is too.  It's also possible that complex problems require complex answers there is no simple way out of such a situation, but that complex solution may still be less than other more complicated options.  Sorry to be cranky about your post but I think it murks up the water on this point. 

(oh and I love your blog and think it's one of the best I read)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the example you showed with regards to showing how a certain instance of a complex interaction can be improved by a more sophisticated interface element, but I wouldn&#8217;t extend it as any comment on whether taking features out of, or adding more features into a product makes it better.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s a much broader question that can&#8217;t be discussed within the context of the amazon ratings example you showed.  What I see that you are saying is that a complex problem may require a complex answer, and I don&#8217;t see that as being in disagreement with the less is more philosophy.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s still a big problem that too much noise is being added to products and I&#8217;ll use that amazon item page as example: tagging?  forums?  amapedia?  askville?</p>
<p>In theory it&#8217;s a good rallying call to get designers to really think about each and every feature they add, and in practice it is too.  It&#8217;s also possible that complex problems require complex answers there is no simple way out of such a situation, but that complex solution may still be less than other more complicated options.  Sorry to be cranky about your post but I think it murks up the water on this point. </p>
<p>(oh and I love your blog and think it&#8217;s one of the best I read)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear hear!  Amazon has always been one of the most open minded sites and businesses on the web, throwing a ton of features against the wall and seeing what sticks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear!  Amazon has always been one of the most open minded sites and businesses on the web, throwing a ton of features against the wall and seeing what sticks.</p>
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