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		<title>By: Aids &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Comment on Sermo a sign of a larger trend toward specialized social&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/sermo-a-sign-of-a-larger-trend-toward-specialized-social-networks/#comment-156385</link>
		<dc:creator>Aids &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Comment on Sermo a sign of a larger trend toward specialized social&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 17:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Continue Reading    &#160;Posted on: Friday, May 2, 2008 at 1:02 pm &#160;Uncategorized.  You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed.  You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Auto Parts Jock</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/sermo-a-sign-of-a-larger-trend-toward-specialized-social-networks/#comment-146774</link>
		<dc:creator>Auto Parts Jock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think specialized social networkings are great. They only suck if you can't fit yourself into any one. Things like these put the "exclusivity" on social networkings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think specialized social networkings are great. They only suck if you can&#8217;t fit yourself into any one. Things like these put the &#8220;exclusivity&#8221; on social networkings.</p>
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		<title>By: asser</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/sermo-a-sign-of-a-larger-trend-toward-specialized-social-networks/#comment-146496</link>
		<dc:creator>asser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a ja polecam serwis &lt;a href="http://www.wlosy.yoyo.pl/" rel="nofollow"&gt;włosy&lt;/a&gt; bo tam są   informacje o łupieżu, leczeniu, łysieniu i inne ciekawe sprawy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a ja polecam serwis <a href="http://www.wlosy.yoyo.pl/" rel="nofollow">włosy</a> bo tam są   informacje o łupieżu, leczeniu, łysieniu i inne ciekawe sprawy</p>
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		<title>By: Quick First Review Of ReporTwitters &#183; ReporTwitters Blog</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/sermo-a-sign-of-a-larger-trend-toward-specialized-social-networks/#comment-145950</link>
		<dc:creator>Quick First Review Of ReporTwitters &#183; ReporTwitters Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 14:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] trending rather than design. Josh Porter, who is a writer who brands himself as a social designer, believes that diversification will start soon. “The hype of professional networking platforms comprises [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] trending rather than design. Josh Porter, who is a writer who brands himself as a social designer, believes that diversification will start soon. “The hype of professional networking platforms comprises [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Traces of Inspiration &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More Users Isn&#8217;t Always Better: Specialized Social Networks Have a Better Chance of Survival</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/sermo-a-sign-of-a-larger-trend-toward-specialized-social-networks/#comment-145784</link>
		<dc:creator>Traces of Inspiration &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More Users Isn&#8217;t Always Better: Specialized Social Networks Have a Better Chance of Survival</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Porter posted a great article yesterday on Bokardo called &#8220;Sermo a sign of a larger trend toward specialized social networks&#8220;. In the post, Joshua says: Sermo is a sign of a larger trend: the move to smaller, more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Porter posted a great article yesterday on Bokardo called &#8220;Sermo a sign of a larger trend toward specialized social networks&#8220;. In the post, Joshua says: Sermo is a sign of a larger trend: the move to smaller, more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Darowski</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/sermo-a-sign-of-a-larger-trend-toward-specialized-social-networks/#comment-145783</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Darowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mike H:

You're very right (and great work at Sermo, btw).

I just recently signed up for Facebook... on a "why not?" whim. All I've done there is add a few friends I"m connected two elsewhere and add widgets for EVERY OTHER SPECIALIZED network I use. What's the point? I'm better off just having my blog as an aggregator for all these specialized networks (last.fm, twitter, del.icio.us, Flickr, etc.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mike H:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re very right (and great work at Sermo, btw).</p>
<p>I just recently signed up for Facebook&#8230; on a &#8220;why not?&#8221; whim. All I&#8217;ve done there is add a few friends I&#8221;m connected two elsewhere and add widgets for EVERY OTHER SPECIALIZED network I use. What&#8217;s the point? I&#8217;m better off just having my blog as an aggregator for all these specialized networks (last.fm, twitter, del.icio.us, Flickr, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike H</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/sermo-a-sign-of-a-larger-trend-toward-specialized-social-networks/#comment-145779</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On general vs. specialty sites:

I think one problem with the more general sites is the implicit assumption that you will want to have ALL your photos, music, blogs, friends etc. hosted there -- there is little interoperability with other sites. It's a sort of AOL-style walled garden  all over again (with slightly shorter walls).

Contrast with the Flickr model, where the scope is limited (only photos), but it's well integrated with a lot of other places on the net--you don't need to worry about having nine different places to keep your pictures and which actions you can take at each site. You can have them in one place and yet still do what you want with them. It's more of a "small pieces loosely joined" approach.

Overall the general sites are gambling on total buy-in, and they're just not gonna get it...

Also, the signal-to-noise ratio tends to be much higher on a specialty network (and this is evident on Sermo).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On general vs. specialty sites:</p>
<p>I think one problem with the more general sites is the implicit assumption that you will want to have ALL your photos, music, blogs, friends etc. hosted there &#8212; there is little interoperability with other sites. It&#8217;s a sort of AOL-style walled garden  all over again (with slightly shorter walls).</p>
<p>Contrast with the Flickr model, where the scope is limited (only photos), but it&#8217;s well integrated with a lot of other places on the net&#8211;you don&#8217;t need to worry about having nine different places to keep your pictures and which actions you can take at each site. You can have them in one place and yet still do what you want with them. It&#8217;s more of a &#8220;small pieces loosely joined&#8221; approach.</p>
<p>Overall the general sites are gambling on total buy-in, and they&#8217;re just not gonna get it&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, the signal-to-noise ratio tends to be much higher on a specialty network (and this is evident on Sermo).</p>
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		<title>By: David K</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/sermo-a-sign-of-a-larger-trend-toward-specialized-social-networks/#comment-145776</link>
		<dc:creator>David K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The core value of any network is 'topic relevance.'  'People' are secondary, but it is up to them to supply quality topics and content to support those conversations.

You join a group for which the topic is one that you can relate to.  Make that group's topic the focus of an entire website, and you have a very valuable arena with highly concentrated conversations.

So yes, this is just repackaging a pretty straightforward concept.  But the tools have evolved, and, more importantly, the trends have evolved to make a more comfortable experience of using the net as social media.  Early adopters will gravitate to the focused social sites.  Late adopters are more likely now than back in the 90's to lurk and possibly interact.

So the concept of the medical professional network? Great!  The business around it?  Well...that's another story.

Based on Mike H's comment, there is no intention of selling advertising to the network.  My money's on "Not Yet."  It's easy to get a network; it's getting them to talk that is the hard part.  So selling to lurkers seems like a logical plan B.  Selling aggregate information to financial and healthcare companies, as they are doing now, means that you are defining and monetizing the trends based on your active community.  Which means that community best be fully active.  I would hope that Sermo stays true to its integrity by not including key brands in its polls nor leading questions in its questionnaires.

I believe in the concept; I just don't see the money in it - especially in a space with a TON of money to spend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The core value of any network is &#8216;topic relevance.&#8217;  &#8216;People&#8217; are secondary, but it is up to them to supply quality topics and content to support those conversations.</p>
<p>You join a group for which the topic is one that you can relate to.  Make that group&#8217;s topic the focus of an entire website, and you have a very valuable arena with highly concentrated conversations.</p>
<p>So yes, this is just repackaging a pretty straightforward concept.  But the tools have evolved, and, more importantly, the trends have evolved to make a more comfortable experience of using the net as social media.  Early adopters will gravitate to the focused social sites.  Late adopters are more likely now than back in the 90&#8217;s to lurk and possibly interact.</p>
<p>So the concept of the medical professional network? Great!  The business around it?  Well&#8230;that&#8217;s another story.</p>
<p>Based on Mike H&#8217;s comment, there is no intention of selling advertising to the network.  My money&#8217;s on &#8220;Not Yet.&#8221;  It&#8217;s easy to get a network; it&#8217;s getting them to talk that is the hard part.  So selling to lurkers seems like a logical plan B.  Selling aggregate information to financial and healthcare companies, as they are doing now, means that you are defining and monetizing the trends based on your active community.  Which means that community best be fully active.  I would hope that Sermo stays true to its integrity by not including key brands in its polls nor leading questions in its questionnaires.</p>
<p>I believe in the concept; I just don&#8217;t see the money in it - especially in a space with a TON of money to spend.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Alchin</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/sermo-a-sign-of-a-larger-trend-toward-specialized-social-networks/#comment-145774</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Alchin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike H:

I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding the sustainability of specialty networks. Looking at the history of existing sites, it's clear that users who flock to a focused site will be much more likely to stick with that site than to abandon it when something else comes along.

I think that notion owes much of its credence to the importance of a specialized community. Generic social networks seem (to me) to focus more on social networking features than on developing a meaningful community. So when a new site comes along with new or better features, people move on, because the community they've established is secondary.

In a specialty area, users connect on a far more specific level, which allows them to place more value on those relationships, and they become unwilling to lose them.

This, in turn, makes it much less likely that future competing sites will even show up, since they'd have a lot of "social inertia" (think the object at rest staying at rest) to overcome. That's why I expect new features to be added to existing specialty networks, since the communities can remain intact, while entering into this brave "new" world.

Thinking about social inertia makes me want to form even more physics analogies to social networking, such as relationships having mass and what not. Maybe I'm just too geeky for my own good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike H:</p>
<p>I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding the sustainability of specialty networks. Looking at the history of existing sites, it&#8217;s clear that users who flock to a focused site will be much more likely to stick with that site than to abandon it when something else comes along.</p>
<p>I think that notion owes much of its credence to the importance of a specialized community. Generic social networks seem (to me) to focus more on social networking features than on developing a meaningful community. So when a new site comes along with new or better features, people move on, because the community they&#8217;ve established is secondary.</p>
<p>In a specialty area, users connect on a far more specific level, which allows them to place more value on those relationships, and they become unwilling to lose them.</p>
<p>This, in turn, makes it much less likely that future competing sites will even show up, since they&#8217;d have a lot of &#8220;social inertia&#8221; (think the object at rest staying at rest) to overcome. That&#8217;s why I expect new features to be added to existing specialty networks, since the communities can remain intact, while entering into this brave &#8220;new&#8221; world.</p>
<p>Thinking about social inertia makes me want to form even more physics analogies to social networking, such as relationships having mass and what not. Maybe I&#8217;m just too geeky for my own good.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike H</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/sermo-a-sign-of-a-larger-trend-toward-specialized-social-networks/#comment-145767</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a regular reader of this site and a UI designer at Sermo, I'm quite interested in this topic :)

To clarify the question about differentiation, one big difference with Sermo is the unique business model: physicians get free anonymous membership, and clients in the financial and healthcare industries pay for access to aggregated voting data and physician commentary. There is no advertising, and no plans to add it.

There was a recent blog posting somewhere about social networking sites being short-lived: first everyone jumped on MySpace, then abandoned MySpace for Facebook, etc. I have a feeling that for specialized social networks this is not the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a regular reader of this site and a UI designer at Sermo, I&#8217;m quite interested in this topic <img src='http://bokardo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To clarify the question about differentiation, one big difference with Sermo is the unique business model: physicians get free anonymous membership, and clients in the financial and healthcare industries pay for access to aggregated voting data and physician commentary. There is no advertising, and no plans to add it.</p>
<p>There was a recent blog posting somewhere about social networking sites being short-lived: first everyone jumped on MySpace, then abandoned MySpace for Facebook, etc. I have a feeling that for specialized social networks this is not the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Marshall Kirkpatrick</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/sermo-a-sign-of-a-larger-trend-toward-specialized-social-networks/#comment-145746</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshall Kirkpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 01:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and comments, esp Adam's. I think the web could use a really great post on what makes social networking a unique phenomenon. identity plus sel publishing plus "friending" and subscription all rolled up into one site.  now give me open ID and appropriate data portability!

see also appscout.com post on nanoscientist network too btw. if not on my phone right now i'd add link</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and comments, esp Adam&#8217;s. I think the web could use a really great post on what makes social networking a unique phenomenon. identity plus sel publishing plus &#8220;friending&#8221; and subscription all rolled up into one site.  now give me open ID and appropriate data portability!</p>
<p>see also appscout.com post on nanoscientist network too btw. if not on my phone right now i&#8217;d add link</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Darowski</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/sermo-a-sign-of-a-larger-trend-toward-specialized-social-networks/#comment-145733</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Darowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Erkko: That's the thing. These broad social networks have to deal with a lot of advertising that just doesn't matter to them. The more specialized ones can have more relevant advertising (think Dogster) or maybe even no advertising if they allow their profile info to be sold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Erkko: That&#8217;s the thing. These broad social networks have to deal with a lot of advertising that just doesn&#8217;t matter to them. The more specialized ones can have more relevant advertising (think Dogster) or maybe even no advertising if they allow their profile info to be sold.</p>
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		<title>By: Helping Journalists Thrive, Network, And Collaborate On The Web &#187; Publish2 Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helping Journalists Thrive, Network, And Collaborate On The Web &#187; Publish2 Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] software design guru Josh Porter of Bokardo adds: My hunch is that we’ll see a lot more specialized social networks coming soon. They’ll [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] software design guru Josh Porter of Bokardo adds: My hunch is that we’ll see a lot more specialized social networks coming soon. They’ll [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Erkko</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/sermo-a-sign-of-a-larger-trend-toward-specialized-social-networks/#comment-145728</link>
		<dc:creator>Erkko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These networks will actually create an interesting business opportunity for the hosts. The information created by 3 of the 4 mentioned networks in joshua's post will accumulate valuable and monetizable content. Interesting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These networks will actually create an interesting business opportunity for the hosts. The information created by 3 of the 4 mentioned networks in joshua&#8217;s post will accumulate valuable and monetizable content. Interesting!</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Alchin</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/sermo-a-sign-of-a-larger-trend-toward-specialized-social-networks/#comment-145727</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Alchin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this very interesting, but I disagree with your notion that this is a trend to move to smaller,  more specialized networks. Such networks have been available on the Web for nearly its entire existence, so I'd hardly call this a new concept. What seems to be new about it is twofold.

First, it's built for professionals, where nearly all established specialty networks are for hobbyists (such as &lt;a href="http://www.lugnet.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;LUGNET&lt;/a&gt;). Second, designers and developers are starting to add a richer set of social features (learned from more generic sites) to these specialized networks.

I expect that, in addition to an influx of professional-oriented specialty networks, we'll see a significant upgrade in the feature sets of existing hobbyist networks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this very interesting, but I disagree with your notion that this is a trend to move to smaller,  more specialized networks. Such networks have been available on the Web for nearly its entire existence, so I&#8217;d hardly call this a new concept. What seems to be new about it is twofold.</p>
<p>First, it&#8217;s built for professionals, where nearly all established specialty networks are for hobbyists (such as <a href="http://www.lugnet.com/" rel="nofollow">LUGNET</a>). Second, designers and developers are starting to add a richer set of social features (learned from more generic sites) to these specialized networks.</p>
<p>I expect that, in addition to an influx of professional-oriented specialty networks, we&#8217;ll see a significant upgrade in the feature sets of existing hobbyist networks.</p>
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