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		<title>By: How Do I Use The Tags, Ping, Social Media and Bookmarking Service</title>
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		<dc:creator>How Do I Use The Tags, Ping, Social Media and Bookmarking Service</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 3. Tag Technorati for all the post that you write. As example, I write this post about Social Media and blogging. I will tags and ping Technorati and make my blog tracked and visible in Technorati search. If you keep on using this approach, every tags that you create will get Technorati SEO benefits and easily it will help you keep your posts at or near the top of the list at Technorati. That hard to explain, why don&#8217;t you read Bokardo post on Technorati Tags: What Are They Really. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 3. Tag Technorati for all the post that you write. As example, I write this post about Social Media and blogging. I will tags and ping Technorati and make my blog tracked and visible in Technorati search. If you keep on using this approach, every tags that you create will get Technorati SEO benefits and easily it will help you keep your posts at or near the top of the list at Technorati. That hard to explain, why don&#8217;t you read Bokardo post on Technorati Tags: What Are They Really. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: xiaoxiao</title>
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		<dc:creator>xiaoxiao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.xytfy.com/sh</description>
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		<title>By: search engine ranking</title>
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		<dc:creator>search engine ranking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes.

Winston Churchill</description>
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<p>Winston Churchill</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 10:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technorati is absolutely useless to me in terms of getting traffic. I see zero benefit from using their tags and am no longer using them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technorati is absolutely useless to me in terms of getting traffic. I see zero benefit from using their tags and am no longer using them.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Does putting Technorati and other tags on your blog help &#187; &#187; &#187; Website Content Writer &#38; Freelance Copywriter</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/tags-categories-or-keywords-what-are-you-writing-and-who-is-indexing-them/#comment-20459</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Does putting Technorati and other tags on your blog help &#187; &#187; &#187; Website Content Writer &#38; Freelance Copywriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So I searched for &#8220;what&#8217;s the use of technorati tags&#8221; and I found this very interesting post&#160;&#8211; the post had been triggered by this post on BuzzMachine. Anyway, the first link led me to this link&#160;and this further led me here, a post written to basically debunk this post. Before I write more I must mention that these are old posts. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So I searched for &#8220;what&#8217;s the use of technorati tags&#8221; and I found this very interesting post&nbsp;&#8211; the post had been triggered by this post on BuzzMachine. Anyway, the first link led me to this link&nbsp;and this further led me here, a post written to basically debunk this post. Before I write more I must mention that these are old posts. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 14:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was getting some good traffic from technorati for about 3 months, then they just stopped listing my site as updating.  From their interface it appears that I haven't posted to my blog in many months. This is despite both tagging and pinging.  Now that they have done this on two of my four blogs, I can only conclude that their service is worse than worthless to me. Of course, emails to their support team are merely ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was getting some good traffic from technorati for about 3 months, then they just stopped listing my site as updating.  From their interface it appears that I haven&#8217;t posted to my blog in many months. This is despite both tagging and pinging.  Now that they have done this on two of my four blogs, I can only conclude that their service is worse than worthless to me. Of course, emails to their support team are merely ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: www.robirwin.com &#187; Technorati Tags</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/tags-categories-or-keywords-what-are-you-writing-and-who-is-indexing-them/#comment-2260</link>
		<dc:creator>www.robirwin.com &#187; Technorati Tags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Internet Rob 10:25 am    I&#8217;ve seen a lot of bloggers getting into using Technorati Tags in their posts lately&#8230; but what benefit do they bring? I found this article and, the final line seems to sum up the situation: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Internet Rob 10:25 am    I&#8217;ve seen a lot of bloggers getting into using Technorati Tags in their posts lately&#8230; but what benefit do they bring? I found this article and, the final line seems to sum up the situation: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: vanderwal</title>
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		<dc:creator>vanderwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 04:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, when Technorati launched their tags they initially required a link back to Technorati.  They removed the requirement quickly, but left the example still showing the link.  Not too long after they removed Technorati in the example.  This was after the alpha folks had been through and followed what was initially there.

One of the things Technorati did when it began their tag scrapping was to include categories in the commercial blog tools (WordPress and Six Apart tools). I am not sure if this is still done or not.

With Technorati Tags the best value I find is their great interface on their Technorati Tags page.  It aggregates social bookmarking tagging results from del.icio.us and furl as well as the photo sites that tag, like Flickr.  The scraped tags are displayed in the center of it all.  But, the Technorati Tags are what I find least valuable (I find them incredibly less valuable than their own keyword filters).

The down side of Technorati Tags runs across a few lines. But first I will pull together the optimal folksonomy tagging environment (which Technorati does not claim to be), which has three required data points: a distinct object being tagged, a distinct person tagging, and the distinct tags.  With these three elements tags filtering can be performed to bring greater value from the corpus.  On top of these three elements it is important for the consumer of the content to be performing the tagging, in their own self interest while sharing it with the community.  This last component is where Technorati falls from a folksonomy tool, like del.icio.us, into regular tagging.  

What is being tagged and by whom is difficult to discern in the open wilds that Technorati scrapes/indexes. In many blogs posts the person tagging is the content creator.  But, it really gets confounded when it is unclear whether the tag applies to one or more of the links in their post, the tag is stating what their post is about, or is providing a tag as a summary of the post's content.  

Where I find the Technorati Tags lacking is when I click on a link and the only place the term is being used in the post is in the tag.  I too often I can not find a reason for the tag as it relates to their post. When people are selecting tags for their content based on what they think others may call it, we get into a very slippery slope that quickly lands at the doorstep of Cory Doctorow's Metacrap. This makes it tough to discern language and definitions for the tag terms.  Understanding what is being tagged and the vocabulary of the person tagging I may filter in or out that person in my list of people to follow or ignore on specific tag terms.

This is not the fault of Technorati, but it is an unclear practice and implementation on the part of many tagging.  In these cases a marriage of the tags and the terms in the text of the posts could provide improved results.  Some believe this algorithmic approach is the best way to go, while others believe this is best done by humans.  It is important to keep in mind people are loving this tagging stuff at the moment and finding a way to harvest that energy would be helpful.  The selfish tagging in del.icio.us and to a large degree in Flickr is what really caught my eye and that of others at the time folksonomy was coined.  The richness and value to the individuals was easy to perceive, which was quite different than all tagging efforts that had come before them.

I am finding solid results lately from the nascent Yahoo MyWeb 2 Search, which is quite similar to del.icio.us in many aspects, but the results are layered on top of the regular Yahoo search results from those in your community.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, when Technorati launched their tags they initially required a link back to Technorati.  They removed the requirement quickly, but left the example still showing the link.  Not too long after they removed Technorati in the example.  This was after the alpha folks had been through and followed what was initially there.</p>
<p>One of the things Technorati did when it began their tag scrapping was to include categories in the commercial blog tools (WordPress and Six Apart tools). I am not sure if this is still done or not.</p>
<p>With Technorati Tags the best value I find is their great interface on their Technorati Tags page.  It aggregates social bookmarking tagging results from del.icio.us and furl as well as the photo sites that tag, like Flickr.  The scraped tags are displayed in the center of it all.  But, the Technorati Tags are what I find least valuable (I find them incredibly less valuable than their own keyword filters).</p>
<p>The down side of Technorati Tags runs across a few lines. But first I will pull together the optimal folksonomy tagging environment (which Technorati does not claim to be), which has three required data points: a distinct object being tagged, a distinct person tagging, and the distinct tags.  With these three elements tags filtering can be performed to bring greater value from the corpus.  On top of these three elements it is important for the consumer of the content to be performing the tagging, in their own self interest while sharing it with the community.  This last component is where Technorati falls from a folksonomy tool, like del.icio.us, into regular tagging.  </p>
<p>What is being tagged and by whom is difficult to discern in the open wilds that Technorati scrapes/indexes. In many blogs posts the person tagging is the content creator.  But, it really gets confounded when it is unclear whether the tag applies to one or more of the links in their post, the tag is stating what their post is about, or is providing a tag as a summary of the post&#8217;s content.  </p>
<p>Where I find the Technorati Tags lacking is when I click on a link and the only place the term is being used in the post is in the tag.  I too often I can not find a reason for the tag as it relates to their post. When people are selecting tags for their content based on what they think others may call it, we get into a very slippery slope that quickly lands at the doorstep of Cory Doctorow&#8217;s Metacrap. This makes it tough to discern language and definitions for the tag terms.  Understanding what is being tagged and the vocabulary of the person tagging I may filter in or out that person in my list of people to follow or ignore on specific tag terms.</p>
<p>This is not the fault of Technorati, but it is an unclear practice and implementation on the part of many tagging.  In these cases a marriage of the tags and the terms in the text of the posts could provide improved results.  Some believe this algorithmic approach is the best way to go, while others believe this is best done by humans.  It is important to keep in mind people are loving this tagging stuff at the moment and finding a way to harvest that energy would be helpful.  The selfish tagging in del.icio.us and to a large degree in Flickr is what really caught my eye and that of others at the time folksonomy was coined.  The richness and value to the individuals was easy to perceive, which was quite different than all tagging efforts that had come before them.</p>
<p>I am finding solid results lately from the nascent Yahoo MyWeb 2 Search, which is quite similar to del.icio.us in many aspects, but the results are layered on top of the regular Yahoo search results from those in your community.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/tags-categories-or-keywords-what-are-you-writing-and-who-is-indexing-them/#comment-1322</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds good to me, too, Jeff. What I wonder is if any other blog search engines are supporting this way of doing things....my assumption is that other blog search engines wouldn't index technorati-specific tags. 

If my assumption is correct, then the method you mention is certainly better than any engine-specific method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds good to me, too, Jeff. What I wonder is if any other blog search engines are supporting this way of doing things&#8230;.my assumption is that other blog search engines wouldn&#8217;t index technorati-specific tags. </p>
<p>If my assumption is correct, then the method you mention is certainly better than any engine-specific method.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah Brier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah Brier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a bit of an AHA moment the other day with Technorati when I realized that the benefit was to allow people to organize themselves with their content alone, no additional structure required. It's the same way people use Flickr tags to create "groups". The reason I'd prefer to use a Technorati Tag (which I never have, I might add), is that I'd rather not muddy up my own category system with what is, presumably, a one time thing. It's the difference between have a hierarchical category system versus an open tagging system, I guess. Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a bit of an AHA moment the other day with Technorati when I realized that the benefit was to allow people to organize themselves with their content alone, no additional structure required. It&#8217;s the same way people use Flickr tags to create &#8220;groups&#8221;. The reason I&#8217;d prefer to use a Technorati Tag (which I never have, I might add), is that I&#8217;d rather not muddy up my own category system with what is, presumably, a one time thing. It&#8217;s the difference between have a hierarchical category system versus an open tagging system, I guess. Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Watkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on the Technorati Help page, if I provide the &lt;code&gt;rel="tag"&lt;/code&gt; attribute to the category listing for each article, I should get indexed just fine.

Note the text, about half way down the page: &lt;b&gt;"You do not have to link to Technorati."&lt;/b&gt;. I can link to my own category pages, without giving any SEO benefit to Technorati, and still be indexed.

This doesn't sound so bad to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the Technorati Help page, if I provide the <code>rel="tag"</code> attribute to the category listing for each article, I should get indexed just fine.</p>
<p>Note the text, about half way down the page: <b>&#8220;You do not have to link to Technorati.&#8221;</b>. I can link to my own category pages, without giving any SEO benefit to Technorati, and still be indexed.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t sound so bad to me.</p>
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