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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/the-power-of-niche-social-network-sites/#comment-194842</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My long time friend and I were brainstorming for a year about working on what we're passionate about.  We can to the conclusion that we love sports and participating in many athletic events, but didn't have a niche site to discuss or display our passion.  

This is where we came up with www.weekendjock.com an online community where the weekend athletes can highligh their athletic efforts and collaborate with others who share the same sporting interest and passion.

I'm glad that niche site are doing so well and all the positive feedback I'm hearing from people like yourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My long time friend and I were brainstorming for a year about working on what we&#8217;re passionate about.  We can to the conclusion that we love sports and participating in many athletic events, but didn&#8217;t have a niche site to discuss or display our passion.  </p>
<p>This is where we came up with <a href="http://www.weekendjock.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.weekendjock.com</a> an online community where the weekend athletes can highligh their athletic efforts and collaborate with others who share the same sporting interest and passion.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that niche site are doing so well and all the positive feedback I&#8217;m hearing from people like yourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: The OIKOS Australia Official Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Luke 10:2b church planting</title>
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		<dc:creator>The OIKOS Australia Official Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Luke 10:2b church planting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 08:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Manny Hernandez</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/the-power-of-niche-social-network-sites/#comment-161470</link>
		<dc:creator>Manny Hernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 17:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a firm believer in the power of niche social networks. I run two of them, called &lt;a href="http://tudiabetes.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;TuDiabetes.com&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://estudiabetes.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;EsTuDiabetes.com&lt;/a&gt; (in Spanish), on &lt;a href="http://ning.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ning&lt;/a&gt;. They cater to people touched by diabetes and I have found them to make a great impact on the lives of people with diabetes worldwide.

BTW, I am reading through a review copy of your book: I will be posting a review on Amazon.com shortly. I LOVE IT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a firm believer in the power of niche social networks. I run two of them, called <a href="http://tudiabetes.com" rel="nofollow">TuDiabetes.com</a> and <a href="http://estudiabetes.com" rel="nofollow">EsTuDiabetes.com</a> (in Spanish), on <a href="http://ning.com" rel="nofollow">Ning</a>. They cater to people touched by diabetes and I have found them to make a great impact on the lives of people with diabetes worldwide.</p>
<p>BTW, I am reading through a review copy of your book: I will be posting a review on Amazon.com shortly. I LOVE IT!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/the-power-of-niche-social-network-sites/#comment-160001</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 13:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most successful social websites provide a singular service/benefit to the end user.  Community features aside, Flickr is a great place for users to upload and publish photos--likewise for YouTube and videos.  Similarly, PatientsLikeMe offers tools for patients to track their own symptoms and disease progression.  The community features on these websites enhance the original user benefit because they provide a new perspective (value add) to the site's original functional intent.

Social sites that exist merely for the purpose of providing user profiles and features for them to communicate cannot succeed in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most successful social websites provide a singular service/benefit to the end user.  Community features aside, Flickr is a great place for users to upload and publish photos&#8211;likewise for YouTube and videos.  Similarly, PatientsLikeMe offers tools for patients to track their own symptoms and disease progression.  The community features on these websites enhance the original user benefit because they provide a new perspective (value add) to the site&#8217;s original functional intent.</p>
<p>Social sites that exist merely for the purpose of providing user profiles and features for them to communicate cannot succeed in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-05-06 at Ip&#8217;s.</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-05-06 at Ip&#8217;s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 05:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Power of Niche Social Network Sites - Bokardo (tags: social socialnetworking niche social+software web2.0 design) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ramesh</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/the-power-of-niche-social-network-sites/#comment-158644</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 21:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks in part to the likes of Ning, there are now thousands of social networks that cater to a whole variety of subjects. These smaller, focused sites allow users to connect with like-minded people and give advertisers targeted demographics. Niche social networks are also good for marketers who have a product or service they want to promote that relates to a particular interest. A good place to find such sites is a search engine that caters specifically to social networks such as DigFoot or http://findasocialnetwork.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks in part to the likes of Ning, there are now thousands of social networks that cater to a whole variety of subjects. These smaller, focused sites allow users to connect with like-minded people and give advertisers targeted demographics. Niche social networks are also good for marketers who have a product or service they want to promote that relates to a particular interest. A good place to find such sites is a search engine that caters specifically to social networks such as DigFoot or <a href="http://findasocialnetwork.com" rel="nofollow">http://findasocialnetwork.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Max Design - standards based web design, development and training &#187; Some links for light reading (6/5/08)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Design - standards based web design, development and training &#187; Some links for light reading (6/5/08)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 20:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Welcome Bokardo&#160;Readers! at Eric DeLabar</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/the-power-of-niche-social-network-sites/#comment-158368</link>
		<dc:creator>Welcome Bokardo&#160;Readers! at Eric DeLabar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you&#8217;re here because of Josh Porter&#8217;s posts on social network and social niche sites on his blog Bokardo, you might find these [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bootstrapping a Niche Social Network - Bokardo</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/the-power-of-niche-social-network-sites/#comment-158214</link>
		<dc:creator>Bootstrapping a Niche Social Network - Bokardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 11:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] DeLabar brings up this question in response to my post on the power of niche social network sites last week: &#8220;I’ve always had a problem [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/the-power-of-niche-social-network-sites/#comment-158182</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 10:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great question, Chris. I think of niche as targeted at a smaller population or specific activity. So, while Bebo and Facebook and MySpace have somewhat different audiences, they are still targeting the general public, and provide general networking features. 

This is, admittedly, a grey area. But it's easier to note when sites are targeted, because they have a very specific focus that cannot appeal to the mass audience. 

It's also telling that on sites like Facebook they provide many features for subgroups and niches, acting as more of a mall than a store. 

While Ravelry says "knitters here", Facebook says "knitters here and everyone else too".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question, Chris. I think of niche as targeted at a smaller population or specific activity. So, while Bebo and Facebook and MySpace have somewhat different audiences, they are still targeting the general public, and provide general networking features. </p>
<p>This is, admittedly, a grey area. But it&#8217;s easier to note when sites are targeted, because they have a very specific focus that cannot appeal to the mass audience. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also telling that on sites like Facebook they provide many features for subgroups and niches, acting as more of a mall than a store. </p>
<p>While Ravelry says &#8220;knitters here&#8221;, Facebook says &#8220;knitters here and everyone else too&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fahey</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/the-power-of-niche-social-network-sites/#comment-157869</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Fahey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 23:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua, is there a qualitative difference between "niche" sites and "mainstream" sites? Or is it simply quantity?

The mainstream sites have their niches as well. Livejournal, Friendster, Facebook, and MySpace have different demographics and appeal to different people, like clubs and subcultures. They are huge, and they overlap, but they differ in ways that transcend their design and features. They differ mostly in the types of people they attract.

Ever wonder why two functionally identical bars will attract wildly different crowds, one full of after-work preppies and the other full of hipsters in tight jeans? Or why a niche punk band or a novelty act will suddenly achieve mainstream success? 

I think this is what happened to Facebook, and even MySpace, both of which began as niche sites. Their successes had everything to do with their deep understanding of how culture works -- how college and high school students relate to each other, or how even up-and-coming bands attract followings. 

And a lot of luck -- people who are astonished at how smart Zuckerberg is need only look at the name of his site - Facebook - to see that the guy had no business plan beyond connecting college students. Growth out of the niche and into the mainstream was and is entirely haphazard. 

On the other hand, social networks that attempt from the outset to appeal to a mainstream audience, to not reach into a niche, haven't done so well, have they? Without the megaton marketing machinery of, say, a movie studio or a record label, it is nearly impossible to move a niche cultural product into the mainstream directly.

Understanding this purely-cultural phenomenon in social networks, bars, and nightclubs is a purely sociological pursuit. The future of social networking may be largely shaped by marketers, promoters, and cultural influencers (even manipulators) instead of math theorists, technologists, and user experience designers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua, is there a qualitative difference between &#8220;niche&#8221; sites and &#8220;mainstream&#8221; sites? Or is it simply quantity?</p>
<p>The mainstream sites have their niches as well. Livejournal, Friendster, Facebook, and MySpace have different demographics and appeal to different people, like clubs and subcultures. They are huge, and they overlap, but they differ in ways that transcend their design and features. They differ mostly in the types of people they attract.</p>
<p>Ever wonder why two functionally identical bars will attract wildly different crowds, one full of after-work preppies and the other full of hipsters in tight jeans? Or why a niche punk band or a novelty act will suddenly achieve mainstream success? </p>
<p>I think this is what happened to Facebook, and even MySpace, both of which began as niche sites. Their successes had everything to do with their deep understanding of how culture works &#8212; how college and high school students relate to each other, or how even up-and-coming bands attract followings. </p>
<p>And a lot of luck &#8212; people who are astonished at how smart Zuckerberg is need only look at the name of his site - Facebook - to see that the guy had no business plan beyond connecting college students. Growth out of the niche and into the mainstream was and is entirely haphazard. </p>
<p>On the other hand, social networks that attempt from the outset to appeal to a mainstream audience, to not reach into a niche, haven&#8217;t done so well, have they? Without the megaton marketing machinery of, say, a movie studio or a record label, it is nearly impossible to move a niche cultural product into the mainstream directly.</p>
<p>Understanding this purely-cultural phenomenon in social networks, bars, and nightclubs is a purely sociological pursuit. The future of social networking may be largely shaped by marketers, promoters, and cultural influencers (even manipulators) instead of math theorists, technologists, and user experience designers.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Alchin</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/the-power-of-niche-social-network-sites/#comment-157778</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Alchin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 20:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eric - You might've only slightly misunderstood me. I wasn't trying to say that such a thing doesn't exist, only that it would need to exist in order for XFN or FOAF to be of much use in these situations. I hadn't looked enough at the Social Graph API to know if it would suffice, but if it does, so much the better. Thanks for the heads-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eric - You might&#8217;ve only slightly misunderstood me. I wasn&#8217;t trying to say that such a thing doesn&#8217;t exist, only that it would need to exist in order for XFN or FOAF to be of much use in these situations. I hadn&#8217;t looked enough at the Social Graph API to know if it would suffice, but if it does, so much the better. Thanks for the heads-up.</p>
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		<title>By: My del.icio.us bookmarks for May 4th &#124; AccMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>My del.icio.us bookmarks for May 4th &#124; AccMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 11:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Power of Niche Social Network Sites - Bokardo - Niche site functionality makes a huge difference to productivity. This is a good example from the medical profession [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lance Ball</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/the-power-of-niche-social-network-sites/#comment-157285</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance Ball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 01:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article, Joshua.  Thanks for the continued focus on niche social networks.  Patients Like Me is a great example of how a focused, niche community can bring power to its users and have real value in a broader context.  

Although it's a much less serious topic (though that depends on who you talk to), we're aiming for something similar with &lt;a href="http://greenthumbr.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Greenthumbr&lt;/a&gt;, a social network for gardeners.  Not only is it a place for experienced and committed gardeners to reflect on their experiences, share images, and keep track of their plants, but the wisdom of that focused group can also be a great resource for those folks who just want to figure out how to not kill the ivy in their office window.

Like you, we feel pretty strongly that the real power of social networks comes from action - empowering the users with tools and information to improve their lives.  That, in turn, brings more, better, and quality information to those folks just passing through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article, Joshua.  Thanks for the continued focus on niche social networks.  Patients Like Me is a great example of how a focused, niche community can bring power to its users and have real value in a broader context.  </p>
<p>Although it&#8217;s a much less serious topic (though that depends on who you talk to), we&#8217;re aiming for something similar with <a href="http://greenthumbr.com" rel="nofollow">Greenthumbr</a>, a social network for gardeners.  Not only is it a place for experienced and committed gardeners to reflect on their experiences, share images, and keep track of their plants, but the wisdom of that focused group can also be a great resource for those folks who just want to figure out how to not kill the ivy in their office window.</p>
<p>Like you, we feel pretty strongly that the real power of social networks comes from action - empowering the users with tools and information to improve their lives.  That, in turn, brings more, better, and quality information to those folks just passing through.</p>
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		<title>By: Niche social network sites &#124; ckunte.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niche social network sites &#124; ckunte.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 08:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Joshua Porter: &#8220;The power of niche social sites isn&#8217;t just in connecting people, it&#8217;s in providing tools that allow people to do something better than they could before&#8230; or, the reason why PatientsLikeMe is an amazing web site.&#8221; [...]</description>
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