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		<title>By: Alex Davidson</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-279602</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great analysis of some of Friendfeed&#039;s current UX problems. Since FF has recently added an import friends from twitter feature, the firehose has become even more powerful and thus the usability issues outlined here become even more critical for them to fix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great analysis of some of Friendfeed&#8217;s current UX problems. Since FF has recently added an import friends from twitter feature, the firehose has become even more powerful and thus the usability issues outlined here become even more critical for them to fix.</p>
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		<title>By: Dare Obasanjo aka Carnage4Life - Some Thoughts on User Interfaces for Activity Streams</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-278688</link>
		<dc:creator>Dare Obasanjo aka Carnage4Life - Some Thoughts on User Interfaces for Activity Streams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] weeks ago, Joshua Porter posted an excellent analysis of FriendFeed&#039;s user interface in his post Thoughts on the Friendfeed interface where he provides this excellent annotated [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] weeks ago, Joshua Porter posted an excellent analysis of FriendFeed&#8217;s user interface in his post Thoughts on the Friendfeed interface where he provides this excellent annotated [...]</p>
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		<title>By: FriendFeed Improvements Begin With You &#124; Blind Five Year Old</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-278092</link>
		<dc:creator>FriendFeed Improvements Begin With You &#124; Blind Five Year Old</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] people offering their opinions on how to improve FriendFeed. From Robert Scoble to Louis Gray to Joshua Porter, they&#8217;ve all had interesting ideas which led to a massive FriendFeed meta discussion. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] people offering their opinions on how to improve FriendFeed. From Robert Scoble to Louis Gray to Joshua Porter, they&#8217;ve all had interesting ideas which led to a massive FriendFeed meta discussion. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-278065</link>
		<dc:creator>Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; I have no idea who this is so I don&#039;t care that she liked it. (No offence Sophia)

Don&#039;t worry. None taken. 

I like your &#039;scannability&#039; idea - even though I tend to like the chaos of friendfeed. Having said that I hate the chaos of twitter. Wouldn&#039;t it be better if we could customise any service like that to suit our own preferences?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; I have no idea who this is so I don&#8217;t care that she liked it. (No offence Sophia)</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry. None taken. </p>
<p>I like your &#8216;scannability&#8217; idea &#8211; even though I tend to like the chaos of friendfeed. Having said that I hate the chaos of twitter. Wouldn&#8217;t it be better if we could customise any service like that to suit our own preferences?</p>
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		<title>By: Phoebe</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-277927</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoebe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article and I agree with your basic emphasis on &quot;scannability.&quot; FF can&#039;t be all things for all people, but as an aggregator it would be more useful with more personalization (even just on/off) options so people see what they want when scanning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article and I agree with your basic emphasis on &#8220;scannability.&#8221; FF can&#8217;t be all things for all people, but as an aggregator it would be more useful with more personalization (even just on/off) options so people see what they want when scanning.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew Ballard</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-277853</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew Ballard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alex Then obviously Friendfeed is not for you then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alex Then obviously Friendfeed is not for you then.</p>
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		<title>By: StevenRay</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-277825</link>
		<dc:creator>StevenRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments to the post are as interesting to me as the post. I&#039;m suprised so many people find the FOF activity so valuable. It&#039;s what I dislike about FF... I agree that a lot of this activity takes up too much space especially when it&#039;s from so many people that you&#039;re not &quot;friends&quot; with. I do however find value in the ability to scan the names because I can usually pick out people that submit content that I find more or less interesting.  Just an extra filter when trying to save time.   Thanks for the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments to the post are as interesting to me as the post. I&#8217;m suprised so many people find the FOF activity so valuable. It&#8217;s what I dislike about FF&#8230; I agree that a lot of this activity takes up too much space especially when it&#8217;s from so many people that you&#8217;re not &#8220;friends&#8221; with. I do however find value in the ability to scan the names because I can usually pick out people that submit content that I find more or less interesting.  Just an extra filter when trying to save time.   Thanks for the post!</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg H</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-277823</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregg H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. When it comes to the UI, FF has done pretty much everything wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. When it comes to the UI, FF has done pretty much everything wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Williams</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-277822</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t know/have never met most &quot;friends&quot; on FriendFeed, which causes frustration from the weight &quot;friends&quot; are given. I use FF for the variety of posted content/links, which is hard to scan.  it&#039;s annoying when the new comments or likes bumps something back up to the top. The message board vibe gets annoying sometimes as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t know/have never met most &#8220;friends&#8221; on FriendFeed, which causes frustration from the weight &#8220;friends&#8221; are given. I use FF for the variety of posted content/links, which is hard to scan.  it&#8217;s annoying when the new comments or likes bumps something back up to the top. The message board vibe gets annoying sometimes as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jodi Schneider</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-277797</link>
		<dc:creator>Jodi Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, seeing content from friends of friends is one of the best things about friendfeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, seeing content from friends of friends is one of the best things about friendfeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-277767</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mikepk: That, harsh? No way...you should see the stuff I delete. :) 

I see your point, and I understand that many people use Friendfeed for social engagement around posts (especially after reading all the responses to this). But do people really read the comments on everything that comes through the reader? If they do, they must have some serious time on their hands...

I think the fundamental issue is that the system is architected to be a always-on fire-hose...there is so much information coming in that one cannot help but be overwhelmed by it. The inline comments and likes just seem to add to that fire-hose for me. 

That said, perhaps FF is migrating toward the comments and things inline to differentiate itself...there certainly seems to be support for it from the FF community. And...it&#039;s OK if I&#039;m not part of that community...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mikepk: That, harsh? No way&#8230;you should see the stuff I delete. <img src='http://bokardo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I see your point, and I understand that many people use Friendfeed for social engagement around posts (especially after reading all the responses to this). But do people really read the comments on everything that comes through the reader? If they do, they must have some serious time on their hands&#8230;</p>
<p>I think the fundamental issue is that the system is architected to be a always-on fire-hose&#8230;there is so much information coming in that one cannot help but be overwhelmed by it. The inline comments and likes just seem to add to that fire-hose for me. </p>
<p>That said, perhaps FF is migrating toward the comments and things inline to differentiate itself&#8230;there certainly seems to be support for it from the FF community. And&#8230;it&#8217;s OK if I&#8217;m not part of that community&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mikepk</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-277764</link>
		<dc:creator>mikepk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Josh! don&#039;t take the following too harshly, you know I like your work. The first iteration of Grazr&#039;s homepage was still my favorite :).

I think you make some very strong points, and it&#039;s a very good analysis, but I think your initial supposition is flawed. If FriendFeed&#039;s purpose was the efficient discovery of new content, than I agree with you wholeheartedly. Unfortunately I think the problem here (and this is the same problem Grazr has struggled with and still faces) is discovering what its purpose really is. 

FriendFeed is like Twitter in a lot of ways, that people are coming to it and having a fundamentally different experience of the service from each other. You, in effect, craft your own experience of it by how much you engage. It&#039;s like the post Dave Winer had a while back about Twitter where he analogized it to the blind men and the elephant parable. Each had a different conception of what it fundamentally *was*. Twitter&#039;s interface hasn&#039;t changed much over time because, I would argue, they are cognizant of this point. Tweak it too much for a single purpose and you may disrupt the balance for others.

If you can answer that first, very important, question then it makes decisions about things like interface easier (not easy, but a lot easier). I&#039;ve recently become a fan of FriendFeed, but I&#039;ve been using it as a community. Often times the valuable content *is* the comments, from people like Derrick, Mona, and &quot;Stupid Blogger Tina&quot;. The conversations, finding new people, and seeing who likes what is a lot more important to my experience of it than just a scannable stream. I use Grazr as my scannable stream and frankly it&#039;s much better suited to that kind of info consumption. Unfortunately I think the &quot;river of news&quot; scan is a more niche problem, one for &quot;weirdos&quot;, and I think FriendFeeds shooting for a more mainstream (or more social media savvy) audience. They may find one overriding purpose for the service / site, but I think they&#039;re still in the exploratory phase of what it &quot;wants to be&quot;.

Just my $.02</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh! don&#8217;t take the following too harshly, you know I like your work. The first iteration of Grazr&#8217;s homepage was still my favorite <img src='http://bokardo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>I think you make some very strong points, and it&#8217;s a very good analysis, but I think your initial supposition is flawed. If FriendFeed&#8217;s purpose was the efficient discovery of new content, than I agree with you wholeheartedly. Unfortunately I think the problem here (and this is the same problem Grazr has struggled with and still faces) is discovering what its purpose really is. </p>
<p>FriendFeed is like Twitter in a lot of ways, that people are coming to it and having a fundamentally different experience of the service from each other. You, in effect, craft your own experience of it by how much you engage. It&#8217;s like the post Dave Winer had a while back about Twitter where he analogized it to the blind men and the elephant parable. Each had a different conception of what it fundamentally *was*. Twitter&#8217;s interface hasn&#8217;t changed much over time because, I would argue, they are cognizant of this point. Tweak it too much for a single purpose and you may disrupt the balance for others.</p>
<p>If you can answer that first, very important, question then it makes decisions about things like interface easier (not easy, but a lot easier). I&#8217;ve recently become a fan of FriendFeed, but I&#8217;ve been using it as a community. Often times the valuable content *is* the comments, from people like Derrick, Mona, and &#8220;Stupid Blogger Tina&#8221;. The conversations, finding new people, and seeing who likes what is a lot more important to my experience of it than just a scannable stream. I use Grazr as my scannable stream and frankly it&#8217;s much better suited to that kind of info consumption. Unfortunately I think the &#8220;river of news&#8221; scan is a more niche problem, one for &#8220;weirdos&#8221;, and I think FriendFeeds shooting for a more mainstream (or more social media savvy) audience. They may find one overriding purpose for the service / site, but I think they&#8217;re still in the exploratory phase of what it &#8220;wants to be&#8221;.</p>
<p>Just my $.02</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher G</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-277763</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe FF could allow people to Hide parts of the interface.</description>
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		<title>By: Christopher G</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-277761</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Josh -- right on, and I hope the strong points weren&#039;t offensive.  Just I&#039;ve seen the scanability argument gain traction without people realizing what they give up in return, which is the very spirit of FriendFeed.  You have to have the extra information of names and comments for a majority of the posts to get any attention at all.  It has to all remain visible, without necessitating extra clicks.  Smaller fonts and a wider content column could do enough to fix the inefficiencies.  I&#039;d like to see attempts at that first.  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Josh &#8212; right on, and I hope the strong points weren&#8217;t offensive.  Just I&#8217;ve seen the scanability argument gain traction without people realizing what they give up in return, which is the very spirit of FriendFeed.  You have to have the extra information of names and comments for a majority of the posts to get any attention at all.  It has to all remain visible, without necessitating extra clicks.  Smaller fonts and a wider content column could do enough to fix the inefficiencies.  I&#8217;d like to see attempts at that first.  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/thoughts-on-the-friendfeed-interface/#comment-277748</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Christopher G: While you make a very strong point (you can relax, we&#039;re all friends here) I just don&#039;t buy that the current interface is as efficient as it could be. I&#039;m not arguing to get rid of those things, mind you, I&#039;m just saying that they take up a lot of room in the current design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Christopher G: While you make a very strong point (you can relax, we&#8217;re all friends here) I just don&#8217;t buy that the current interface is as efficient as it could be. I&#8217;m not arguing to get rid of those things, mind you, I&#8217;m just saying that they take up a lot of room in the current design.</p>
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