Comments on: Why Scale Matters in Tagging Systems

By: Atlanta Real Estate

Atlanta Real Estate — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:31:36 +0000

I also concur, the google example doesn’t hold water for me. The meta data and links are constantly assaulted (for gain), and the quality of the information is in jeopardy

By: The TaskFly Chronicles » Blog Archive » Tagging for Dummies.

The TaskFly Chronicles » Blog Archive » Tagging for Dummies. — Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:36:48 +0000

[...] Scale is very important in a tagging system that you open up to the public. If you’re creating an application for use by small groups of people at a time (like a project management tool), keep the tagging system private. In this case, users have their own “tag space”. They can tag any item in the system, but they only search within their own tags. Use a public tagging system (where users can search the entire group of tags) if you get a lot of user generated content. Remember tagging is most useful when it is harnessing the wisdom of crowds. [...]

By: Tagging - scale matters « zeitspur

Tagging - scale matters « zeitspur — Tue, 26 Dec 2006 09:07:54 +0000

[...] Bokardo - Social Web Design » Why Scale Matters in Tagging Systems [...]

By: Kurt

Kurt — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:45:08 +0000

Thanks for all the great info. You seem to really know alot about tagging. I’m looking forward to reading more.

By: watchingnow » Blog Archive » links for 2006-11-27

watchingnow » Blog Archive » links for 2006-11-27 — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 04:26:16 +0000

[...] Bokardo - Social Web Design » Why Scale Matters in Tagging Systems Great post on tagging and the wisdom of crowds (tags: tagging folksonomy) [...]

By: watchingnow.com Blog » Blog Archive » links for 2006-11-26

watchingnow.com Blog » Blog Archive » links for 2006-11-26 — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:20:04 +0000

[...] Bokardo - Social Web Design » Why Scale Matters in Tagging Systems Great post on tagging and the wisdom of crowds (tags: tagging folksonomy) [...]

By: Mike Harper

Mike Harper — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:13:35 +0000

Great article that articulates what I felt was wrong with the Elaine Petersen article. Personally I think the Internet is big enough to accommodate truths, alternative truths, half-truths and lies at the content and metadata levels, and people will still find what they are looking for. As you say, scale makes all the difference by adding weight to those things that are most agreed upon.

By: Tom

Tom — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 22:52:23 +0000

Regarding post style: I can’t read large blocks of italic text. How about adding a simple grey line on the left (and keep it indented) instead?

Also, with such long posts, subheadings are good: “This is where I talk about X”, “This is where Y comes up”, and finally “This is why Y is way better than X”. Just my 2 cents.

By: Deanna

Deanna — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:36:57 +0000

Excellent, excellent post. I’m always so relieved when I read things that echo my own thoughts, which often remain at the incoherent, “Yeah, but… but… but…” stage.

By: Jodi

Jodi — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:11:56 +0000

I too do not think there’s an incorrect tag assignment. The information system as a whole cannot be considered correct or incorrect.

But for the social design to have value (at the macro level) then scale will certainly expose the ‘data’ more accurately - to permit clusters to form (Yankee fans, Red Sox fans, not Yankee fans, etc) - clusters that cannot be seen when the universe is too small.

Although on the whole I concur, the google example doesn’t hold water for me. The meta data and links are constantly assaulted (for gain), and the quality of the information is in jeopardy; PayPerPost and fake computer generated blogs are the latest (eg. views.azigodi.info).

But then again perhaps these poor info examples will cluster (as their quantities increase) and can be tagged a such.

there and back again.

thanx for the nice read.

Jodi
The nNovation Group

By: Ketcheson.net :: links for 2006-11-24

Ketcheson.net :: links for 2006-11-24 — Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:38:23 +0000

[...] Bokardo - Social Web Design » Why Scale Matters in Tagging Systems This guy’s thoughts on folksonomies are always interesting (tags: folksonomy) [...]

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By: Gene

Gene — Thu, 23 Nov 2006 14:14:34 +0000

That was a good recovery from your “Impending death” post.

I wanted to add a quote from Karl Fast that relates to your comments here abour scale (and about IA a couple of days ago):.

“We tend to think that the hard problems are the big ones. So we believe that searching the Web is hard because it’s so huge. But I’ve been thinking lately that the really hard problems are actually the ones in the middle. In the middle, many algorithms don’t work that well with moderate document sets, context becomes much more important, interaction is critical, and you can’t get the user “in the ballpark” anymore–you have to get them to right to the thing they’re looking for.”

You can read the whole quote here. One of the benefits of tagging, I think, is that it can be applied to some of those middle problems (i.e. it doesn’t require Google-like scale to be effective).