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		<title>By: asd</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/zeldman-on-usability/#comment-44269</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; From Bokardo - Zeldman on Usability - Best Web Design Blogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; From Bokardo - Zeldman on Usability - Best Web Design Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: Changed some wording&#8230;some folks thought I was arguing with Zeldman. Actually, I was agreeing with him, and finding that his post echoed what I&#8217;ve found to be true. Jeffrey Zeldman on how he softened up to usability: &#8220;Like many design professionals, I rejected usability when I first encountered it. That s mainly because I first encountered [&#8230;] Read more&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Update: Changed some wording&#8230;some folks thought I was arguing with Zeldman. Actually, I was agreeing with him, and finding that his post echoed what I&#8217;ve found to be true. Jeffrey Zeldman on how he softened up to usability: &#8220;Like many design professionals, I rejected usability when I first encountered it. That s mainly because I first encountered [&#8230;] Read more&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Szymon BÅ‚aszczyk</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/zeldman-on-usability/#comment-39272</link>
		<dc:creator>Szymon BÅ‚aszczyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 02:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wars of the Past. 
With appropriate knowledge we can see usability as:
1. one of the elements of User Experience (http://jjg.net/elements/)
2. a level in Emotional Design (http://www.jnd.org/dn.mss/emotional_desig.html)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wars of the Past.<br />
With appropriate knowledge we can see usability as:<br />
1. one of the elements of User Experience (<a href="http://jjg.net/elements/" rel="nofollow">http://jjg.net/elements/</a>)<br />
2. a level in Emotional Design (<a href="http://www.jnd.org/dn.mss/emotional_desig.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jnd.org/dn.mss/emotional_desig.html</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/zeldman-on-usability/#comment-39260</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 01:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, you&#039;re definitely right, we shouldn&#039;t have to sacrifice good looking design for usability. 

However, I think Zeldman&#039;s point, which I&#039;ve seen too, is that it isn&#039;t always an easy thing to do, especially if you come from one of the extremes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, you&#8217;re definitely right, we shouldn&#8217;t have to sacrifice good looking design for usability. </p>
<p>However, I think Zeldman&#8217;s point, which I&#8217;ve seen too, is that it isn&#8217;t always an easy thing to do, especially if you come from one of the extremes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Stalvies</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/zeldman-on-usability/#comment-39254</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Stalvies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 01:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully as web professionals in 2006 we&#039;re past the extremes (usability-istas in one corner, graphic designers in the other) of the argument. As a rule of thumb, having a &quot;pretty&quot; design DOES add value in itself, provided it doesn&#039;t compromise functionality ... if not, we&#039;d probably just populate wireframes with content and whack &#039;em up online!

I think this is where the likes of Zeldman, Dan Cederholm etc come into their own - principles leading to sites that are pretty AND easy to get around, as opposed to say, &lt;a href=&quot;useit.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;useit.com&lt;/a&gt;  (no offence to Mr Neilsen, but I&#039;m sure he&#039;d agree design isn&#039;t really his main consideration ;o).

How bout some examples of where functionality and design come together?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully as web professionals in 2006 we&#8217;re past the extremes (usability-istas in one corner, graphic designers in the other) of the argument. As a rule of thumb, having a &#8220;pretty&#8221; design DOES add value in itself, provided it doesn&#8217;t compromise functionality &#8230; if not, we&#8217;d probably just populate wireframes with content and whack &#8216;em up online!</p>
<p>I think this is where the likes of Zeldman, Dan Cederholm etc come into their own &#8211; principles leading to sites that are pretty AND easy to get around, as opposed to say, <a href="useit.com" rel="nofollow">useit.com</a>  (no offence to Mr Neilsen, but I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;d agree design isn&#8217;t really his main consideration ;o).</p>
<p>How bout some examples of where functionality and design come together?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/zeldman-on-usability/#comment-39204</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To use an overly-blunt example. A designer should choose colors that are right for the design, not the ones they like best. 

One might make the designer more happy, but the other would serve the user&#039;s needs better. Getting over issues like this is critical for designers, and is always a tension. Aligning the two is where the magic happens. 

So your point is right on, Dave. There&#039;s wiggle room, but the tension exists. 

However, I&#039;m still not convinced that beautiful things work better. There are many, many beautiful things that are hard to use. Norman&#039;s coffeepot, for example... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To use an overly-blunt example. A designer should choose colors that are right for the design, not the ones they like best. </p>
<p>One might make the designer more happy, but the other would serve the user&#8217;s needs better. Getting over issues like this is critical for designers, and is always a tension. Aligning the two is where the magic happens. </p>
<p>So your point is right on, Dave. There&#8217;s wiggle room, but the tension exists. </p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m still not convinced that beautiful things work better. There are many, many beautiful things that are hard to use. Norman&#8217;s coffeepot, for example&#8230; <img src='http://bokardo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Malouf</title>
		<link>http://bokardo.com/archives/zeldman-on-usability/#comment-39198</link>
		<dc:creator>David Malouf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dost thou minimize the importance of aesthetics a touch too much?

There is a lot of room for presentation design skills that communicate emotion beyond utilitarian purposes still needed and valuable before we get to &quot;art&quot;.

The problem with the &quot;graphic&quot; or &quot;interactive&quot; designer come to application design is that they are not used to the new modes of aesthetics that need to be worked on, so they are a fish out of water. But that does not mean there isn&#039;t real value in contributing substantial effort towards evoking and controlling the emotional response of the humans who use our solutions.

&quot;Emotional Design&quot; by Don Norman is a good read in this regard. &quot;Beautiful things work better&quot; is a great phrase to remember.

-- dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dost thou minimize the importance of aesthetics a touch too much?</p>
<p>There is a lot of room for presentation design skills that communicate emotion beyond utilitarian purposes still needed and valuable before we get to &#8220;art&#8221;.</p>
<p>The problem with the &#8220;graphic&#8221; or &#8220;interactive&#8221; designer come to application design is that they are not used to the new modes of aesthetics that need to be worked on, so they are a fish out of water. But that does not mean there isn&#8217;t real value in contributing substantial effort towards evoking and controlling the emotional response of the humans who use our solutions.</p>
<p>&#8220;Emotional Design&#8221; by Don Norman is a good read in this regard. &#8220;Beautiful things work better&#8221; is a great phrase to remember.</p>
<p>&#8211; dave</p>
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