Great point, design is supposed to solve a problem! I didn’t know that St Exupery said that quote though.

These are for the most part great. But my interpretations of art and design differ significantly.

It matters very little what observers think or do: the practice of Art doesn’t require them. It is a necessary activity for the artist, and the artist alone.

The viewer of art is a critical role. I don’t know one artist who has ever made anything (that was going to be seen by any other human) that didn’t consider how someone is going to react to it. In fact, I’d say that the definition of art is creating something that people have a reaction to, thus predicating the viewer, or else art can’t exist. Oxford’s English Dictionary defines art in part:

…producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power

“To be appreciated” means there needs to be someone to appreciate.

There are people who only make art for themselves, but in that case, it is themselves who fill the roll as viewer. Without someone to experience art, it’s my belief that art ceases to exist.

Josh states,

We marvel at Michelangelo’s David even though we could recreate a million of them because it was the toil and expression of a single man.

“we marvel” means there’s an audience (the appreciators!). For the a great deal of art from David’s era, artists made creations for benefactors. If the benefactor didn’t like it, the artist might not again get such a payday and thus couldn’t feed his family.

Design is certainly art. Design is art that has an additional purpose beyond beauty or emotional power, I think it is thus a high form of art. Returning to Oxford’s from the verb definition of “design” we extract that designing is done,

with a specific purpose or intention in mind

So, imo, design is art with a specific purpose, utility, or intention in mind…

I originally wrote a whole ton here, but I’ve left only this abridged version (!). To view my whole reaction, check out my blog entry here at Re¢ently. My original reaction was too long for a comment, and I felt it deserved its own blog entry.

Brian, you’re right. Art doesn’t require people to do anything except appreciate…design requires something of us. Use.

I tweaked my post to reflect that.

Technology Serves Humans.: “Too often people blame themselves for the shortcomings of technology.”

In my experience, people blame technology for the shortcomings of technology. Granted you do a lot more research than I but in both my research and real world interactions more often than not I hear the comment ‘darn / #$%ing computer’.

I would hone this statement by saying people expect technology to fail, people share the blame for the failure because they are utilising the technology. However, the end point is the same, its not your fault, more than you chose to use an unreliable method to complete a task. And yes, designers should work towards fixing this issue.

Design is not Art. “Great Art, on the other hand, is always in style.”
And great designs always work: the wheel, the button. Design and art are not mutually exclusive, the ‘joy of use’ combines both form and function in to an experience that is both created and designed at the same time. Some Apple products are a good example of this.

Great Design is Invisible.
I would say well designed function should be transparent (invisible) but again design and art, function and form, are interlinked. I can see how you are talking about purely virtual designs but once you think about product design with embedded virtual interfaces (e.g. ipod) then you must take in to account aspects of industrial design. People enjoy the ipod in part because it is artistically pleasing.

Simplicity:
We are the technology we create. As it evolves so does our understanding of it. I know more about the internet today than I did yesterday, and the machine knows more about me. We are evolving together. What was too complex yesterday may be a little more understandable today based on my experiences with technology.

Simplicity is relative and changing. Designs should not be boiled down to the lowest common denominator, but be malleable interactions that grow in sophistication with our understanding of the new world around us.

Simplicity should be scalable.

Pauric, certainly some people know to blame technology. Too many people, however, blame themselves. It’s actually odd to hear it, and it never ceases to surprise me.

According to Wikipedia’s entry for Art:

“The denotation art implies some degree of aesthetic value, regardless of any practical value of the art in question.”

This dovetails with my distinction between appreciation(aesthetic) and use(practicality).

Web Design, Product Design and Page Design (magazines/books) requires use. Graphic Design (like in magazine ads and billboards) only require Communication.

But your point did get me thinking about all this.

On blame: I’m afraid I’m just not getting it. Can you give us/me a scenario where a user fails to complete a task due to either system error or functional ineptitude and will blame themselves for the failure.

I think the majority of humans have a tendency to first look elsewhere when placing blame. They came out of nowhere when I crashed, my alarm didnt go off, the dog ate it.

Or

Word wont let me do that, not ‘Its my fault I’m not that skilled with word’.
The printer has that incompressible PC Load letter error message again, not ‘I failed to install the correct driver’
Why wont yahoo simply forward an attachment, not ‘I’m a fool for not knowing that I must save & reattach images in yahoo mail’
When computer crashes they are more likely to want to throw the thing out the window not kick themselves.

Again, I dont doubt you are right but I am having trouble citing examples where people blame themselves when there’s a perfectly good scapegoat sitting right in front of them, unable to answer back!

You had me until the last two.

Design shouldn’t always be invisible. Aesthetics can be and should be a very important component of design. Products that work well but are ugly and ill-formed are still poorly designed.

Simplicity is a trendy adjective to strive for. More simplicity often means less control for users and more top-down imposition from designers who “know best what the users need.” Not everything needs to be–or should be–simple. Do you want a simple air traffic control panel? Elegance is a better adjective here.

If design is invisible you can’t see it. If it is invisible it can’t be design.

Substitute ‘experience’ as you will.

Addendum: Tell me, young birdy, what did you think?

Pauric…completely anecdotal evidence from watching many user tests. I’ve heard it dozens of times…my parents say it…many people I know blame themselves…it’s really a common thing.

And the number of times that it stops someone from doing something is probably more…

Thanks! “And the number of times that it stops someone from doing something is probably more… ”

Thats the design issue in my view – fear of failure. My take on solving the problem is not so much design for error prevention, but by preempting failure through ui cues such as guidance. Forewarned is forearmed.

I hear your anecdotal evidence, I hypothesize that people will blame themselves in the presence of an expert as this is more likely to garner help. Either way – splitting hairs. I think interfaces should be humble and invite blame, thus reducing fear of failure.

Great post Joshua. However, I’m not sure I agree 100% about everything you’ve got here. For starters, the Art bit.

Design certainly isn’t art – however, I think art has a place in design. “Art” can add emotion to design and that’s sometimes a vital and necessary thing. Self-expression, or the enablement of self-expression, can be a good thing when it comes to design. If there is a need to add emotion to what we design, and I think there often is, then art has its place. However adding emotion can also increase complexity.

Which brings me to simplicity. Dan Saffer already touched on this and I agree with his point. I’m all for simplicity, as long as it doesn’t sacrifice value or meaning. I think you support that, but it’s an important distinction to make.

#6> Design and SEO/SEM play nice together! We live in a performance driven world.

Keith, you’re right. I think we agree. I’m all for emotion in design, and I think that it can be a force of good. But the ultimate judgment isn’t dependent on that…

More broadly, this is a mistake that I’ve made and I think lots of designers make. It’s that we somehow see the design as representing us personally, and in a small way it does but in a larger way it doesn’t. It’s easy to take criticism of a design personally, even though its usually not meant so. In fact, I still struggle with this myself.

That’s exactly why this is a principle that I design by…so as to remember what its all about.

Not just science tells us we can’t have intelligence without emotion. If you believe that, and it is also, presumably, safe to assume that design can’t exist without at least some degree of intelligence, emotion is not added to design it is already a part of it, if not a function. Attachment is a different matter, if not of a different order, and, designer or not, will depend upon your personal and cultural preferences. And even perhaps how much free time you have to spend on it.

Great article Josh, however I do strongly disagree with the following statement:

Design is not Art.

Art is about personal expression. It is about the life, the emotions, the thoughts and ideas of the artist. It matters very little what observers do, their activity is not required, only their appreciation. The practice of Art doesn’t require them. It is a necessary activity for the artist, and the artist alone.

I think that this is a limited view of the artist, and of the designer. I consider myself an artist whose medium happens to be a computer. I create experiences for participants. (I do not like the term ‘user’ because it sounds so sterile. Perhaps ‘experiencer’ is more accurate

I use artistic sensibilities and design principles to minimize distractions, and delight the viewer as they go through the process they are seeking to complete. My goal is for the viewer to be not only physically and mentally engaged, but emotionally as well. I think that designers should embrace their role as artists, architects, storytellers, and experience creators. In this way, a designer becomes empowered and responsible for creating engaging experiences, not just ‘web designs.’ And that’s what viewers remember: The experience.

The goals of the artist and the designer are one in the same:

As Saint Exupery said, “A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.”

“The progression of a painter’s work… will be toward clarity; toward the elimination of all obstacles between the painter and the idea, and between the idea and the observer… to achieve this clarity is, inevitably, to be understood.” –Mark Rothko

Good post! I’m glad my design teacher pointed me to it.

I could agree with the statement, “Design is not always art.”
Design is a requisite part of art. A work of art is designed to affect an audience in specific ways. Designing for function or purely to acheive a desired form or aesthetic require very similar conscious processes of fore thought and planning, followed by skillful execution, and implementation.

I do agree that the best designs, whether merely beautiful or created for utilitarian purposes, are transparent. They both work well without drawing undue attention to the artist/designer. They both communicate and transcend barriers and simplify the complex through symbol.

To say that art is focused on the artist simply emoting or expressing without regard to audience ignores what is arguably the greatest strenth of art, its ability to affect the viewer. In that sense, the best and most useful designs could be said to be the most artful since they are so effective at communicating and compelling the user to understand things the way the designer sees them.

The best designers are artists, and the best artists are mastermind designers.

As a side note, art is not simply about self-expression, it is about representation of reality. Emotion is only one aspect of human reality and the human condition. Art is useful in understanding that condition generally not only as pertaining to the artist as an isolated individual. Art is not made in a vaccum any more than design. Art too, is always contextual.

design is about use. Every designer should read that sentence daily.

Isn’t the design of an ipod art? Yes, but what matters more is how it works. The UI is awesome, and in my opinion what makes the product great.

In respect of the glaringly, perhaps intentionally, missing principle, great design might not always be good design. For example, not all of the designs humans have come up with over the years have always been appreciated by all of the humans involved. Hence, whilst a design may indeed be successful and well used it may not always be rightly used, even if only in the eyes of those on the receiving ends, a distinction that need not be solely confined to the automotive industry. Boundary conditions, or principles, that have been offered here have often been neglected by art. Whilst, perhaps not always fortuitously, designs which might fall into this category can be just as likely to turn up in art as they might elsewhere.

I disagree:”Design is not Art”.

A design comes with the look and usability.
You can’t say a frame without a picture is a “great design”.
You need the image to give your experiencer an idea to interact with the functionality. The image i’m talking about is the “ART”. You can’t build a design without ART involved. So art and design always stick each other. Lets just make them as ONE to be simple.

don’t hate.:)

Pauric…I’ve got proof. From a chat I had today:

“okay, I’m a dumbass….I’m trying to login to wordpress and I seem to have forgotten my username and password.”

On the topic of “Art”, see particularly John Dewey’s “Art as Experience”, Aristotle’s “Poetics”, and George Berkeley’s “Treatise Concerning the Principles of Human Knowledge.” Dewey probably does best in exploring art and the necessity of function, and whether they are linked.

Great Post.

Some good points here. I hit a couple of snags though.
You wrote:
“If someone can’t find something on a web site, it is the web designer’s fault.”

Well…more often than not, the most intuitive interface of links that should have been the perfect home page is instead a convoluted clump of menus created by a committee of company fiefdoms all vying for a place in the sun. The web designer can argue for a logical flow that any newbie could understand but, in the complex corporate world there is a Dilbert factor that can’t be underestimated. Don’t lay it on the web designer, dude. We’re trying to make them see the light, believe me.

You wrote:
“Design is not art”
wha wha wha? Great design communicates. From the ancient architects to Frank and Andrew, from Bach to Beck, from Flintstone to Ikea… This one could fill a library or two.

I’m not finished…you wrote:
“Design is not Art.
Art is about personal expression. It is about the life, the emotions, the thoughts and ideas of the artist. It matters very little what observers do, their activity is not required, only their appreciation. The practice of Art doesn’t require them. It is a necessary activity for the artist, and the artist alone.”

You need to go and participate (not as a spectator this time) at Burning Man.

You wrote:
“Great Design is Invisible.
An interesting property of great design is that it is taken for granted.”

Wha wha wha? The Taj Mahal, the Guggenheim, Coca Cola, Brooklyn Bridge, Chanel, Photoshop, Disney, Dreamworks … another branch of the library full of things that everybody notice and are constantly awestruck by.

You wrote:
“Simplicity is the Ultimate Sophistication.
As Saint Exupery said, “A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.”

Well of course but say it like any web designer already does -

K.I.S.S.

or as Michelangelo said it earlier (and apparently Saint Exupery paraphrased),
“In every block of marble I see a statue as plain as though it stood before me, shaped and perfect in attitude and action. I have only to hew away the rough walls that imprison the lovely apparition to reveal it to the other eyes as mine see it.”

Even though I can’t fully agree on the points you’ve made, I do am impressed with the stir you’ve caused by writing this article.

So keep up the good work

It’s worth adding that, in the end, a design is only as good as its implementation.

If the design keeps its simplicity it can be used for a very long time and can become “timeless” as you mentioned it for art.

I think its a great post. At the end of the day it reminds you that design is about use/usability and Art is about flair. Flair is a good thing that can allow you to connect with people emotionally but ultimately it should not get in the way of the use.

There is often beauty in simplicity. I often think things can be very elegant if they take the shortest route to a useful design. I love the quote in the post.

It’s about mindset, if you remember the user when designing you will have a more effective end result.

Great article! I’ll be subscribing from now on!

Great article. and great to see people discussing such an important and for me interesting topic.

I feel that anything done well is a form of art. Art to me is about communication and ultimately making people think.

Good design allows a more direct experience, or improves functionality or something like that.
Design may allow for human interaction, while art can hope to succeed in its own right as pure expression. Connecting to an audience can make an artist feel good, this is in itself an art

I dont know exactly how to get the right words out right now. I’ll have to come back!

I like others agree that design is not totally art but art does have a place and important role in design. Any designer should use art in some way to make the experience of the product (website, software etc) memorable and enjoyable. Otherwise they will not use it again. Art in design also lets the creator to place that interesting twist or trademark/ watermark etc.

BUT apart from that I agree 110% with what you have said. Great design is indeed invisible. The only comments you ever get about a website, is what is wrong with it and then a “Oh yeah great design” attached as an after thought…

Also agree about its the technology’s fault and not the users, although you can get some absolutely dumb users.

Great post (see all accolades are at end as an after thought) and I like others already commenting will now subscribe. Thanks again

Excellent. Great points!

Finaly! I can understand that art & design really are different. Great writing Josh!
Thanks

Design is Art! Or so I believe. It is not only about use. Also, great designs please the eye, and a well crafted website (or other pice of design) can help the use of it!

Design is Art ))

Apart from that, I agree on all points:)

1. is music art?

2. great design is not invisible because we are so used to bad design, so when we see good design we notice how good it is.

If i’m designing a GUI, should i consider myself a graphic artist OR a graphic designer? Is graphic designer and graphic artist different?

Nice article, it makes me think. SO this article is a form of art(the art of writing), that strongly communicates.

@Jon
Music is absolutely art.

Joshua, I totally agree with your statement that design is not art.

Disclaimer: When I say “art” I mean fine art. Cezanne, Picasso, Brancusi, Rothko, Pollock, et al. When I say “design” I mean graphic design, illustration, typography, industrial design, and so on – this is a disctinction between “fine art” and “commercial art”.

There’s a reason art schools split the design students and the art students after the foundation year. Because they’re two very different disciplines.

As someone who went to art school with the full intention of being a fine artist (painter, to be precise) and later moved into web design (for money and because I loved it), the difference is staggeringly apparent.

Art is its own entity, it serves no purpose outside of itself beyond enriching human culture. Art is a lifelong intellectual and aesthetic process; fully and perpetually conscious of its place in history. Art is a continuous dialogue that spans human history. It exists as a basic human enterprise – it relies on nothing external (though it responds to and comments on the external).

Design, in general, is none of these things. Design does not serve its own purpose – it serves to visually communicate an effective message. A newspaper is designed for maximum balance between legibility and an spatial efficiency. Design is about planning and building, efficiency and elegance, signal and noise. For the most part, design is born out of commerce (no, that doesn’t make it inferior) and not cultural expression.

I visited the new MoMA in December (by the way, it’s fantastic, everyone should go there). Oddly enough, the IBM logo was not on exhibit. Neither the Cingular visual identity guidelines nor the McDonalds arches were on display! They have two “Painting” floors, but not one “Typographic Grid” floor. Strange; I mean, if design is art, surely great design deserves to be shown in art museums!

Sorry to be facetious.

The two do overlap on the most superficial level – aesthetics – and sometimes the line is further blurred (but that’s the exception rather than the rule). It’s true that blue and orange are complementary in both art and design. The basic principles of composition are the same. Pattern, repetition, contrast, tone, tint, value. These basic concepts reach across the spectrum.

Every time I see a graphic designer claim to be an artist, I always get the sense they’re trying to boost their own egos. Apparently, they feel more honor in the title “artist” than “designer”.

Which is absurd to me. It’s like saying there’s more honor in “doctor” versus “dentist”. Are designers, or architects, or musicians, or poets, or novelists, or flower arrangers, or interior decorators that insecure in their professions?

Sorry for the long rant. I’ve worked regularly with graphic designers who call themselves artists and have never taken a life drawing course. It irks me – one of my pet peeves. I don’t go around calling myself an artist because I make things look pretty all day.

I’m so sick of “the art of …”. Why can’t activities stand on their own? What’s so bad about writing that we need to change it to “the art of writing” in order to make it seem more grand? Isn’t writing pretty grand and powerful all on its own?

A loosely recalled anecdote: an artist (sculptor, primarily) was invited to a collaborative panel with a group of architects. They all introduced themselves as artists. The fine artist left saying, “Well, if you’re all artists, I don’t see why you invited me here.”

When every creative pursuit gets to be “art,” then the term art becomes essentially meaningless.

I really liked this list. The simplicity bits a lot.

If I had to synthetize it, I would say that you are advocating ego-freedom.

Interesting term, Mario. (ego-freedom)

Could you say more?

thanks for it

These are very good points, yet time and time again they are overlooked. I have seen too many sites that have become an artistic showcase at the expense of useability. It is true that the customer is always right, and people need to remember that.

Your Saint Exupery quote is incorrect. It’s commonly misquoted to suit a specific context.

“In anything at all, perfection is finally attained not when
there is no longer anything to add, but when there
is no longer anything to take away.”
– Antonine de Saint-Exupéry, Wind, Sand and Stars

I point this out only becuase you’ve got literal quotes around it. It is a translation from the French:

“Il semble que la perfection soit atteinte non quand il n’y a plus rien à ajouter, mais quand il n’y a plus rien à retrancher.”
— Antoine de Saint Exupery

so there is some room for interpretation. You’ve inserted the words “A designer…” however, and the original quote makes no reference to a desiger at all.

Thanks Skot.

I was referencing this, but I’ve changed it to the more accurate version.

Actually, the last two points are my favorite.

Good design is actually very transparent. “Design” here is not talking about the graphics or visual design aspects. “Design,” as it is used here, refers to the ease-of-use and usability of the interaction the user has with the site or application. If done well, a “good” design will usually not be noticed by the user. Whereas a poor design usaully becomes very apparent. Now you, as the designer, may notice the differences between the old design and a new and improved; but to the user good design is rarely seen.

A proper interface (and system) should allow a user to complete a task by fitting it to the user’s mental model and task flow while allowing them to do it as smoothly and seemlessly as possible (with feedback, etc.). If this is done, then the design usually is and should go unnoticed.

And I do believe too that simple is better. K.I.S.S. is the best design philosophy to have even for “advanced” users. The advanced users also benefit if a design is for the lowest common denominator. What? If something isn’t simple and easy to use, an advanced user will not appreciate it? I think they will and do. I know I do. Simple, clean, and professional…

And understanding your user is the key to better designs.

“An interesting property of great design is that it is taken for granted. It works so well that we forget that creative effort was involved to bring it about. Sometimes, like with the lowly spoon, the object is so simplistic that it seems obvious, and we disregard that at one point in history it wasn’t.”

Yes, great observation.

It’s overwhelming to see something which doesn’t existed before a certain point and which’s existence became obvious and natural.

Excelente articulo, gracias por compartir y hacer crecer esta gran comunidad.

Alberto
programacion web españa
http://www.macroweb.ws

“Design is not Art” may be true in exclusive comparison, but you seem to think that Design can’t in any way be partly Art, and, excuse my laughter, but that’s just ignorant.

People who use designs are human. They have human aesthetics and human minds and human perceptions. The usability of any design is directly affected by the user’s holistic perception of the design, and that’s not limited solely to “It works well” like you seem to believe. It’s much more complex than that. We should realize that something can be beautiful and artistic and work well at the same time, and that a perfect balance between aesthetics and functionality in fact enhances the usability of any design, and that balance is what we should strive for as designers. It’s what I personally strive for anyway, you can do whatever you want.

ALSO, for god’s sake, don’t update the preview on every onChange event in this textarea — it’s slow and it annoys the heck out of me — set a timeout and update every 2 seconds or something.

Design is about joining idea, and then bring idea to reality and make it easy to understand in our brain

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I believe there is a misconception of the concepts of “design” and “art” from a few users here. I believe design does not encompass the look or style of a creation, but should be defining its purpose only. Take for example a spoon: it is designed to pick up and contain a substance, therefore its design is made of a handle (so we can use it without having to be in contact with the substance), and a little receptacle at the end of it (where the substance goes). In these terms a spoon is well designed when it meets these requirements, whether it is made of wood or solid gold.

Considering this, I guess, provides a whole new angle to the “Design is not Art” discussion. And in this respect I believe that Josh, you are absolutely right! Design is function, art is aesthetic: 2 different “attributes” of the frame. Coming back to post 42 by Jerome, I guess a frame without a picture can be good design. Provided it has all the requirements to allow for a picture to be fitted in, and probably to be hung on a wall, then the frame has been designed correctly. Add style to the frame (carvings, colours, texture) and the visual output of the frame can become art, while the design (in its simplest form, its implicit purpose) remains design.

To me design is the backbone of efficiency, and it is easy to be misguided nowadays especially when confronted with web design. I am more in favour of using look and style, or even image, to describe the aesthetic outcome of a web creation. Have a look at the Css Zen Garden. Throughout the different “designs” (which I believe should rightly be called looks or styles), the design remains the same. The structure in which each element of the page has a purpose and an importance to the whole, this is design. The way each element looks, should be dubbed something different, such as, again, look or style, and this is aesthetics.

I hoe this post isn’t too confusing! Wishing everyone a very good day

Josh– I guess great minds think alike. Or fools never differ, whichever one you prefer…

I recently posted about great design and invisibility on our blog:

http://blog.cleartrip.com/journal/2007/2/6/the-designers-dilemma.html

Anyway, loved your post.

WOW! I love this post.

4 of the 5 principles are exactly the same as my core principles or beliefs about design. Well, actually 4.75 (huh?)…I’ll explain, of course.

I was always taught that design should be transparent. I think we are both following the principle, I’ve just never heard the term invisible used to describe something you are intended to see (I’m being rather literal, I know).

I’ll add a fifth one because I took one away: Good design is usable design. Speaks for itself, I think. Thank you again!

I would love to see you tie this in to your later statement about IA, since it seems to me that the principles of information architecture would be a subset of these principles–basically design without the aesthetic concerns, right? Information is also an interesting place to draw a line between design and art. Art conveys emotion but doesn’t have to communicate information or ensure that the viewer “understands” it. Some art is even purposefully inscrutable. Design must always communicate.

Hey.. this article is nice. What is the difference between art and design?

The Definition of ART is:

Art is that which is made with the intention of stimulating the human senses as well as the human mind and or spirit. An artwork is normally assessed in quality by the amount of stimulation it brings about. The impact it has on people, the amount of people that can relate to it, the degree of their appreciation, and the effect or influence it has or has had in the past, all accumulate to the ‘degree of art.’ Most art that are widely considered to be “masterpieces” in possess these attributes.

Something is not considered ‘art’ when it stimulates only the senses, or only the mind, or when it has a different primary purpose than doing so.

The Definition of DESIGN is:

Design, usually considered in the context of the applied arts, engineering, architecture, and other such creative endeavors, is used both as a noun and a verb. As a verb, “to design” refers to the process of originating and developing a plan for a product, structure, or component. As a noun, “a design” is used for both the final (solution) plan (e.g. proposal, drawing, model, description) or the result of implementing that plan (e.g. object produced, result of the process). More recently, processes (in general) have also been treated as products of design, giving new meaning to the term “process design”.

Designing normally requires a designer considering aesthetic, functional, and many other aspects of an object or process, which usually requires considerable research, thought, modeling, interactive adjustment, and re-design.

Great post Joshua.
I agree that great design is invisible.

I agree the views about design above,I believe they should be our principles required by our customers and our thoughts needed when we make designs!

Well, IMHO design isn’t that important… usability is. If design fulfills that purpose, then (and only then) it’s useful.

Mark

…content matters! I’m always seeing great content on pages from people with absolutely no design skills. Know what? It doesn’t matter…

-mint

Good points!
Although design is important for branding purpose too. It makes people remember your site. Google or Yahoo! logo design are very well know since they are so emphasized on the site. It’s all about the user experience which is build up of many aspects.

Design isn’t as important as some people would say. Look at Google: a blank page, a Logo and a search box… a billion dollar company.

Usability is number 1 everytime and it helps to have a great app or product too.

Yeap.. Design it isn’t art. But I think is very important, and what about graphic site?

@Forum Dyskusyjne:
graphic site is the diferent problem. Dont think so much

Excellent article thank you

@ alojamento web: Design isn’t as important as some people would say. Look at Google[..]

That’s is in my opinion a great example of a great design choice..!

“The Experience Belongs to the User.

Designers do not create experiences, they create artifacts to experience.”

This is right. Espciallity if we want to keep userability in mind.

Very good article

Excellent Article !

Good Article. I studied design at UC Davis and I wish they put it in as simple way as you have here. I believe design requires a certain amount of intuition and anticipation of the target audience you are designing for.

Good design is actually very transparent. “Design” here is not talking about the graphics or visual design aspects. “Design,” as it is used here, refers to the ease-of-use and usability of the interaction the user has with the site or application. If done well, a “good” design will usually not be noticed by the user. Whereas a poor design usaully becomes very apparent. Now you, as the designer, may notice the differences between the old design and a new and improved; but to the user good design is rarely seen.

By the way – the theorem »Design is Invisible« originates from Lucius Burckhart. Here is an excerpt from his essay that he wrote about it in 1980. And here’s a blog that deals with the invisibility of design.

design is supposed to solve a problem! I didn’t know that St Exupery said that quote though

Good design is actually very transparent

Design is Invisible

Design” here is not talking about the graphics or visual design aspects.

The Best and simplest design is the key to success. Even you consider this universe. It seems that God has best design you can ever think of. It is the beauty of God design which created universe from a point.

I DECISIVELY AGREE!

Great post!

Good article. I have to agree with you
For me simplicity is the key.

Design’s objective must be always the user.
Good points of view.

I have to say that I had clients which asked for an artistic approach. They wanted unique and innovative layouts. I had to find the balance between artistic and functional.

Design is not Art.
Art is about personal expression. It is about the life, the emotions, the thoughts and ideas of the artist. It matters very little what observers do, their activity is not required, only their appreciation. The practice of Art doesn’t require them. It is a necessary activity for the artist, and the artist alone.

That’s true, but you can pretty artsy designing a site and make it functional and useful too.

I think diffent. Design is art, but customer is always right =)

Great post thanks

Liver that’s totally right, design is always art.. customers just can’t see it… lol.

excelent articles
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I don’t quite agree on that design is not art as design is the visual representation of your mind and creativity you possess as you thinking human being. But everything else, well written and informative.

I actually came here looking for thoughts about web design, since I’m currently trying to put together a site for a class I’m teaching this fall, but I’ve become really caught up in some of the discussions of art/ design that were started by the initial post and continued in the comments. There have been some really thoughtful responses. Just to add to the conversation, though, I had a thought about the relationship between the two. The rise of the internet has increasingly made design into a two way street. Once upon a time, a designer who was putting together something like an art gallery would certainly consider the opinion of those who would be “using” that gallery, both artists and visitors. However, there was not a great deal of instant feedback, the way there now is with web site designs. This instant feedback is beginning to color all aspects of our lives, such that any design is now much more subject to public opinion than it was before. One of the side-results of this shift is that, even in what might previously have been termed the “pure” arts, the feedback loop is getting stronger. Blog postings are increasingly having an impact on the direction television shows take. Fan fiction has arisen to fill in the cracks of plot points that writers left open in their original works. And some writers have begun experimenting with how to give the reader a larger role in constructing their works. So, one could almost say that “art” has begun to become more like “design.”

Excellent article thank you.

Design is only art, the customer will tell the right way to go, what he said is always right…

great article..

Design is not Art. I don’t think so.. When u are working in webdesign company, at creating design for client you are giving some expresions, something of you is at those projects. It’s not only a work or intrestings.

Intresting article. I agree that the details are more important than general visualisation.

Excelente article, but I disagree as seeing design as not an art. It is an art, the art of making something useful and beautiful, combining usability with aesthetics.

I enjoyed reading your article and you raised some really good points. I totally agree with you that design is not art. Art is timeless while design lives very short.

Design is Invisible

nice job..Bokardo is giving good tips of design. I have a lot of experience from my job but still I am reading his articles

I keep telling the same story to would-be bloggers.

Design is Invisible

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I personally believe that design can be viewed as art. When we design – we create things, an ability to create/produce something unique, worthy – can be considered as art. Designer gives a part of his believes, ideas, thoughts to its “child” as you wish…

Design is not Art.Art is about personal expression. I personally believe that.I have a lot of experience from this articles.

In the attempt to solve this debate on design being an art or the other way around, I started to search through my dusty dictionary. First I looked at ART and in the bunch of definitions I didn’t see any statement that directly defines ART as DESIGN. Of course this is a very shallow argument, so here are some personal views:

Art lets you see the world. Design lets you change the world.

Art, in a way, hides something. Design reveals.

And when we talk about the people involved in these fields, it’s a fact that designers aren’t necessarily artists and artists aren’t necessarily designers.

In my optinion, design can be more personal expression than art… sometimes

Very more interesanter and informative topic. I as more web designer guess/advise to all this again in the Design the range pre-work.

1. Inspiration
2. own idea
3. new techniques use thereby comes also success…

thanks

This article is so good and I’ve translated this into Tranditional chinese in my blog. That’s a bit different from the translation attached below the original. Thanks for sharing this.

I have to say that I had clients which asked for an artistic approach. They wanted unique and innovative layouts. I had to find the balance between artistic and functional.

Design is not Art.Art is about personal expression. I personally believe that.I have a lot of experience from this articles.

In my optinion, design can be more personal expression than art… sometimes thanksss

The web design is a sensitive area. The functionality defines limits but knowing these we have enough freedom to be creative. Most clients are looking for original and unique layout designs. In such cases, creativity is an absolute must. Even an artistic touch can be helpful…

You’re right: design is about to use. Unfortunatly we’re forgeting about it very often. And this is our mistake.

I have to say that I had clients which asked for an artistic approach. They wanted unique and innovative layouts. I had to find the balance between artistic and functional.

If the design keeps its simplicity it can be used for a very long time and can become “timeless” as you mentioned it for art.

Joshua Porter hit the nail on the head with a recent post titled Five Principles to Design By

[…] I keep telling the same story to would-be bloggers. A couple weeks ago I was working on a post for Bokardo and it wasn’t going well…I couldn’t get to what I wanted to say. So I looked around, realized that I hadn’t posted the 5 Principles to Design By from my about page, and just posted that. It has now become the post that many people recognize my blog from, because in some way one of the five principles touched a nerve with them. I did not predict this, and don’t think I could have. So when it doubt…post. You can always un-publish it if you need to. […]

Very nice article to read.But actually I agree that design is an art which coming from your emotion and expression.

Insightful article Josh.
The viewpoints which you provide in support of “design is not art” do sound logical .
Check out this quote on design by Clement Mok.:
“It’s not rocket science. It’s social science – the science of understanding people’s needs and their unique relationship with art, literature, history, music, work, philosophy, community, technology and psychology. The act of design is structuring and creating that balance.”

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Not just science tells us we can’t have intelligence without emotion. If you believe that, and it is also, presumably, safe to assume that design can’t exist without at least some degree of intelligence, emotion is not added to design it is already a part of it, if not a function. Attachment is a different matter, if not of a different order, and, designer or not, will depend upon your personal and cultural preferences. And even perhaps how much free time you have to spend on it.

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Very nice article to read.But actually I agree that design is an art which coming from your emotion and expression.

Designer/developer Joshua Porter lists his five design principles in the latest post on his blog, Bokardo

Good design is actually very transparent.

Design is the most importend part of the website (in my opinion). Not even a great content or seo. Good design help customers to stay on the website.

Thanks! “And the number of times that it stops someone from doing something is probably more… ”

Thats the design issue in my view – fear of failure. My take on solving the problem is not so much design for error prevention, but by preempting failure through ui cues such as guidance. Forewarned is forearmed.

I hear your anecdotal evidence, I hypothesize that people will blame themselves in the presence of an expert as this is more likely to garner help. Either way – splitting hairs. I think interfaces should be humble and invite blame, thus reducing fear of failure.

Designer/developer Joshua Porter lists his five design principles in the latest post on his blog

I’m going to share with you few rules about contemporary Web design :
1. First of all SIMPLICITY – don’t make me think approach. The more simple the better and more intuitive. Exactly how Joshua put it in “Simplicity is the Ultimate Sophistication” paragraph.
2. Don’t use more than 3 column layout – btw 2 column layout is perfect and follows rule No. 1
3. Try to separate top sections of a web page from the content related material.
4. Use simple navigation – don’t confuse user’s where they should go next.
5. Exposure the most important info on home page.
6. Gradient’s – use them a lot – standard of web 2.0 Design
7. Reflection’s – also a standard of web 2.0 Design – use them carefully (only there where they should be)
8. Star shaped labels – best with conjunction with rule 6 & 7
9. Use simple and clean icons to enrich text.
All these rules above are something like a insight into good web design but can be helpful to you.

Yes simplicity is very important. I personally don’t agree that 3 columns website is not as good as 2 columns. If you got something useful to share then or you got a lot of stuff to expose then 3 or even 4 color layout is much better.

9. Use simple and clean icons to enrich text. +1

Yes simplicity is very important. I personally don’t agree that 3 columns website is not as good as 2 columns. If you got something useful to share then or you got a lot of stuff to expose then 3 or even 4 color layout is much better.

Excellently articulated. It makes the argument looks so easy to make that i almost feel stupid in engaging in the endless debates that I did on the subject.

Technology Serves Humans.: “Too often people blame themselves for the shortcomings of technology.”

In my experience, people blame technology for the shortcomings of technology. Granted you do a lot more research than I but in both my research and real world interactions more often than not I hear the comment ‘darn / #$%ing computer’.

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Once more another great article. Keep it coming Josh.

My clients always asks for unique design works which, in some cases, means that an artistic touch is needed.

I would love to see you tie this in to your later statement about IA, since it seems to me that the principles of information architecture would be a subset of these principles–basically design without the aesthetic concerns, right? Information is also an interesting place to draw a line between design and art. Art conveys emotion but doesn’t have to communicate information or ensure that the viewer “understands” it. Some art is even purposefully inscrutable. Design must always communicate.

I really liked this list. The simplicity bits a lot.

If I had to synthetize it, I would say that you are advocating ego-freedom.

I think that Design is an art. In my company we are creating cd labels. My clients wants creative design, fresh ideas and concepts. Anyway it is good article.
Regards

Keith why you are thinkg that art can be at ART category if there is emotion in project. What about artists who are creating static design like some my friends from my web design company Netcare. I think that if someone is creating design or some other category of design..we can tell that this person is an artist and his design is an artist.

I am interested in the topics discussed but have been feeling a little

intimidated by the thought of the work

Very interesting article to read. But I agree that design is an art which is coming from your emotion and expression…

Design is a key to success., This is true, first look is the most important. I always leave poorly design websites.

Design is a key to success., This is true, first look is the most important. I always leave poorly design websites.Yemek Tarifi

Technology Serves Humans.: “Too often people blame themselves for the shortcomings of technology.”

Insightful article Josh.
The viewpoints which you provide in support of “design is not art” do sound logical .

thanks

Designer/developer Joshua Porter lists his five design principles in the latest post on his blog +1

design is about use. Every designer should read that sentence daily.

Thanks.

I think that Design is an art. In my company we are creating cd labels. My clients wants creative design, fresh ideas and concepts.

I really liked this list. The simplicity bits a lot.

If I had to synthetize it, I would say that you are advocating ego-freedom.

Keith why you are thinkg that art can be at ART category if there is emotion in project. What about artists who are creating static design like some my friends from my web design company Netcare. I think that if someone is creating design or some other category of design..we can tell that this person is an artist and his design is an artist.

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Insightful article Josh.
The viewpoints which you provide in support of “design is not art” do sound logical .

The viewpoints which you provide in support of “design is not art” do sound logical .

Bokardo – Social Web Design » Five Principles to Design By Design…is about use. The designer needs someone to use what they create….

Great article! I often tought that a design should be very dificult, but reading this article made me reconsider. I design for consumers and it is important that the use the design as frequent as possible. Simple is Good!

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i like your statement “design is not art” thats absolutely right. art is mostly useless and “beautiful” in the eyes of the observer. design has to have functionalitie! great post.

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Yeap.. Design it isn’t art. But I think it is very important!

Pauric…I’ve got proof. From a chat I had today:

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Not just science tells us we can’t have intelligence without emotion. If you believe that, and it is also, presumably, safe to assume that design can’t exist without at least some degree of

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Keith why you are thinkg that art can be at ART category if there is emotion in project. What about artists who are creating static design like some my friends from my web design company Netcare. I think that if someone is creating design or some other category of design..we can tell that this person is an artist and his design is an artist.

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the most difficult is to be simple and yet creative…

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I think its a great post. At the end of the day it reminds you that design is about use/usability and Art is about flair. Flair is a good thing that can allow you to connect with people emotionally but ultimately it should not get in the way of the use.

Nice article. But when you design something, you don’t think about principles and rules. If you think about it, you will get ordinary design.

I design for consumers and it is important that the use the design as frequent as possible. Simple is Good!

An excellent post. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Within my work, I find myself thinking about such things regularly, at least as they apply to graphic design. I agree with much of what you’ve stated here, as these “principles” largely seem to fall within a user-centered approach to design. At the risk of employing some circular logic, I’d suggest that this approach is at the heart of the distinction between design and art.

i like your statement “design is not art” thats absolutely right. art is mostly useless and “beautiful” in the eyes of the observer. design has to have functionalitie! great post.

Art lets you see the world. Design lets you change the world. Art, in a way, hides something. Design reveals. Thank you for very good article. Welcome to my blog.

Thank you for these tips. I’ll use them in my design of online store.

Everything humans do or create is designed at some point. A writer designs his story plot. Companies design their production cycles. Of course it’s not wrong to talk about design in this context. Spreading myths without saying what it is that makes designs tick and function is counterproductive though.

I entirely agree with you! Thank you!

When people enjoy Art, they say “I like that”.

Thats the basic point. People want to find informations on a website and want not be disturbed by the webdesign.

Everything humans do or create is designed at some point. A writer designs his story plot. Companies design their production cycles. Of course it’s not wrong to talk about design in this context. Spreading myths without saying what it is that makes designs tick and function is counterproductive though.

I agree…

Read, intresting!

I entirely agree with you! Thank you!

Strange, I write the comment, and it is not added. Very much it would be desirable to express gratitude to the author for clause. Has ordered literary translation into Russian. I wish to show young a web-designers. Thanks big for precisely stated items of clause. Now all became much clearer.

Great post. I have a constant battle with clients that have all these great ideas on design and want them implemented even though I try to tell them this will make it very difficult for a visitor to figure out and navigate the site.

More is not always better. I prefer clean simple designs where the new visitor can at a glance figure out what he/she wants to do next.

Hi, Joshua!

I’m sorry, but I can’t understood, why you have removed my previous comment? It’s haven’t no spam. Sad…

“Bad design is obvious because it hurts to use.”
That’s not about design, that’s about usability.
Design = Art + Usability. Imho

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Every time I hear this “design is not art” mantra, I feel like agreeing and disagreeing with it simultaneously. I think that while modern art suffers from slow decline of it’s importance for society, modern design partially takes some functions of art. So design becomes more and more “arty”… Modern designer is not merely an engineer, he is a rockstar with a pencil, an artist – for better or worse.

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A very nice article, good to read thank you

Too often too much effort is put in trying to create something innovative at the expense of intuitive. When someone has to hunt to find what they are looking for because the designer just wanted to make it “look great!”, the designer is missing the point.

While it is nice to have the product look “great” it is much better to have it “work Great”

This article is a good reminder of that!

Great post. I have a constant battle with clients that have all these great ideas on design and want them implemented even though I try to tell them this will make it very difficult for a visitor to figure out and navigate the site.

Great post. I have a constant battle with clients that have all these great ideas on design and want them implemented even though I try to tell them this will make it very difficult for a visitor to figure out and navigate the site.

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i would see more people contributing this Five Principles than seeing dozens of different technologies doing almost the same thing….

Great designs is indeed invisible. Great post!

Excellent article about web design. Good points.

Yes, it is really good clause, but what for about it to write to 100-th time?

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Thank you for this blog, I spent my time effectivelly browsing it!

Is it me or does the quality of comment decrease the further down the page you get? Who’d have known that people peddling anti-impotence drugs are the kind of people compelled to frequent this blog.

Joshua, I pity the spam clean-up operation you’re going to have in the wake of this…

I love your quote “Technology serves humans. Humans do not serve technology”. Your five principles sounds logical to me. To me a good design will score points to your reader and will make them have a good impression of your site, whereas, a poorly design site, you readers may never come back even you offer great information.

Thank you for the great article. Greetings from Germany.

Thank you for the great article !

Technology Serves Humans.: “Too people blame themselves for the shortcomings of technology.”

Thank You for another very interesting article. It’s really good written and I fully agree with You on main issue, btw. I must say that I really enjoyed reading all of Your posts. It’s interesting to read ideas, and observations from someone else’s point of view… it makes you think more. So please try to keep up the great work all the time

I think that Design is an art. In my company we are creating cd labels. My clients wants creative design, fresh ideas and concepts. Anyway it is good article.

I really like this post. I agree with you. In my country, a lot of companies still insist on having websites designed according to their taste and not their users. Your post will really help me open their eyes and accept the reality.

A great post! It has helped me very much! Tanks!

I think these principles were used while designing Google. People just don’t notice that it has a design, but a week ago when Google removed it’s “I’m feeling lucky” button users noticed that something is wrong but they didn’t know what exactly is wrong

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On the topic of “Art”, see particularly John Dewey’s “Art as Experience”, Aristotle’s “Poetics”, and George Berkeley’s “Treatise Concerning the Principles of Human Knowledge.” Dewey probably does best in exploring art and the necessity of function, and whether they are linked.

Great post. I do agree with you.

I love your quote “Technology serves humans. Humans do not serve technology”. Your five principles sounds logical to me. To me a good design will score points to your reader and will make them have a good impression of your site, whereas, a poorly design site, you readers may never come back even you offer great information

I think that Design is an art. Design isn’t as important as some people would say. Look at Google: a blank page, a Logo and a search box… a billion dollar company.

The article is right, design is not art. But Design is part of usability and can be very important, but it depends on the project. Minimalistic design is often the most difficult design task.

Too often too much effort is put in trying to create something innovative at the expense of intuitive.

Great point about; Great Design is Invisible.
This is perfectly true. It’s obviously design that is working, whether it’s being contextually appreciated or not is another thing.

Very interesting site and good article.

Good article and nice site!

All is OK!

Design is power. And you are the best in it.

I love your quote “Technology serves humans. Humans do not serve technology”. Your five principles sounds logical to me. To me a good design will score points to your reader and will make them have a good impression of your site, whereas, a poorly design site, you readers may never come back even you offer great information

Fully agree with all and autor. Remember site design is not images – it’s text

Interesting post about design. I agree with you.

A very great post. I have a constant battle with clients that have all these great ideas on design and want them implemented even though I try to tell them this will make it very difficult for a visitor to figure out and navigate the site.

More is not always better. I prefer clean simple designs where the new visitor can at a glance figure out what he/she wants to do next.

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The web design is a sensitive area. The functionality defines limits but knowing these we have enough freedom to be creative. Most clients are looking for original and unique layout designs. In such cases, creativity is an absolute must. Even an artistic touch can be helpful…
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Joshua, I again agree, I think all artists would choose to seperate themselves from designers. It is a designer’s job to answer a brief, where as an artist can do whatever they like!

Good points. Design is certainly not art in some senses as it caters towards usability rather than inspiration or emotion. Some websites can combine the two however.

Good points from both Creare and Adam, Its something that i think about myself being a web designer. Being constricted by a brief can be painful, but if you delivery what they ask of you, its an easier life.

I especially agree with the last paragraph. Unfortunately a lot of clients in the advertising business are just happy with a long list of product benefits in the ad. Keep it simple and the result will be better.

Yeah, the more subtle and thought provoking adverts are more effective than same-old in your face advertising.

I’ve been doing web design for almost 5 years now and things have certainly changed as the years have gone by. The first thing I ask a client when they walk in the door is, “What exactly are you looking to achieve overall?” Most times a client looks at me and says “I’m not sure, but I need to have a website.” At that point it is really up to the web designer to make recommendations, and less sometimes really is more. One client we have inherited has a website since 1999 with over 5,000 webpages, broken links, incorrect formatting, old stale information, but they like it and we just fix what is there and get rid of what we can. It is hard to reason with people if the results they are getting are what they were looking for. Another client we have has a 5 page website that has my favorite opening webpage ever, “We Are Competitive” is all it says, and then it goes directly to what they offer on the website. Both clients are extremely happy which leads me to believe that beauty and design is really in the eye of the beholder.

I don’t quite agree on that design is not art as design is the visual representation of your mind and creativity you possess as you thinking human being. But everything else, well written and informative.

Thanks for article. It was very informative it to esteem. I the beginning designer and me now any information to be useful. I will unpack your five rules and I will hang up on a wall. They will be always with me.

The viewpoints which you provide in support of “design is not art” do sound logical. Thanks big for precisely stated items of clause.

I agree that design it’s not everything, but we must think on a old expression from my country , which is “the eyes eat before the mouth”. It’s a great phrase, and tell that if something is good looking to our eyes, we’ll see and try it without hesitation

Hi,
I am web designer myself and I really appreciate your design principles. I think a good designer is also someone who has the user in mind during whatever he does. Design is not about self-actualization but about catering to the user and giving the user something that he can use intuitively without taking much notice of the actual design.

I most defiantly agree with the fact that good design is so over looked, the reason for this is because it works and looks right, only truly amazing and bad design will ever stand out.

Article is very interesting, but how about web design. I think, what five principles are little. How about usability, it is part of design or not?

Design is not Art?

My take on this is from the perspective of a manufacturer. I see art as an end product, one that can be appreciated or considered. On the other hand I see design as a tool to be utilised in achieving some end product; whether that end product be arriving at a distant location, buying a item online, or influencing a decision through advertising.

While aesthetics are important to both making either easier on the eye (or to the touch etc.) it is the utility aspect of design which differentiates it from Art. However, when this becomes obsolete then I feel design can become Art.

If i’m designing a GUI, should i consider myself a graphic artist OR a graphic designer? Is graphic designer and graphic artist different?

Nice article, it makes me think. SO this article is a form of art(the art of writing), that strongly communicates.
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Design is not Art?

My take on this is from the perspective of a manufacturer. I see art as an end product, one that can be appreciated or considered. On the other hand I see design as a tool to be utilised in achieving some end product; whether that end product be arriving at a distant location, buying a item online, or influencing a decision through advertising.

While aesthetics are important to both making either easier on the eye (or to the touch etc.) it is the utility aspect of design which differentiates it from Art. However, when this becomes obsolete then I feel design can become Art.

that is really true

Hi Josh,

I fully agree with your statement ‘The Experience Belongs to the User’. My experience is that most companies tend to ignore this rule. They say the feel costumer satisfaction and usability is important but they never test this. They just use their ‘gut’ feeling.

Thanks for the article.

I am a teacher. This article is so good and I’ve translated this into Turkish. i use in my lesson. thank you so much.

Great Art, on the other hand, is always in style. We appreciate Michelangelo’s David even though we could recreate a million of them because it was the toil and expression of a single man.

Design is not art, that’s for sure. Design is one of the basic parts of the Engineering process which involves applying knowledge and resources to achive a desired objective.

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I love your quote “Technology serves humans. Humans do not serve technology”. Your five principles sounds logical to me. To me a good design will score points to your reader and will make them have a good impression of your site, whereas, a poorly design site, you readers may never come back even you offer great information

Very nice

I also need to disagree with the statement that design isn’t art. I feel those who don’t think it’s art limit themselves in there potential of what they could design. Just my opinion though. The rest of the article is great though and I agree with the rest.

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excellent, i have always been artistic but had to develop my graphic design styles.

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“Art is timeless.” Isn’t good design timeless as well?

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Hi,
I am web designer myself and I really appreciate your design principles. I think a good designer is also someone who has the user in mind during whatever he does. Design is not about self-actualization but about catering to the user and giving the user something that he can use intuitively without taking much notice of the actual design

Hello everyone.

I was reading this and to be honest i’ve seen some misconception of ideas of what is design and what is art itself.
Now i agree with the fact that design is not art but at the same time i must disagree, ‘cos design also becomes art, it is true that design serves a purpose to “capitalise” an idea , so usualy when someone talks about design tend to think about usability, why is it done that way.

Few years ago when i was in the art school studing for my arquitect finals, i read an article about a pen caran d’ache had made of, solid gold, platin, diamonds, rubys, etc,etc…
now for many that might been consider a design work in its pure form since it is something designed for us to use(atleast for those with deep pockets) thou’ there was only one pen of that made, is that a work of design? A work of Art?
Well the answer is never that easy , is it now?
the fact is that pen was made in a design “mode” to give “form” to art , so you see the dilema is quite hard to debate, since both are forms of art and each serves a purpose, but when we concile both we have what arquitects call “artistic design”.

Now i only gave the pen example on what can be refered as art and design at the same time, but there are many others, some pop out to our eyes much more often when we go to a shopping mall , a cinema , etc… how many of you guys havent noticed on a movie bilboard? Many are those movie postars who we dont see it as artistic when they are, designers work on the clock painting “shapping the corners” to give us a sense of consumtion , yet if we look really carefully, we can eventualy see the designer artistic feeling, we can capture its essence in many ways.

So my friends, you must realise , not all that is designed is ment to serve the purpose to give us mankind another kind of utility, sometimes designers need to be apreciated as artists they are, not all they produce is or will be consider as art , but much of the work they do is.

This theme would be a long debate trying to figure out if design is art or not, truth is many look just at one side of the story saying “oh, it was designed that way for a purpose so it aint art” , well that aint exactly true, but the real question you guys should be making is “what is art?”. After few years of study i asked to a teacher that same question “what is art afterall?” he answered me “the simple fact every day when you wake up you go to the bathroom take a dump, the way you spit at a wall and even the rubish you make in my class … is art.”.
So art rests even in the most basic needs, expressions, work. Design as we see it, its just a way for all of us to pick on our artistic vein and put it into something usefull.
And so all of you know , most companies pick on designers asking them to get they’re products and make them look pretier, if that aint a work of art they’re doing then i dont know what is art anymore if not picking up on something and create something you might consider to your’self as a nice peice of art. The simple fact there’s a work behind something it can be consider of a design peice , it becomes art because it was designed by someone not just to be functional but also to express the designer point of view of what would look good.

So my friends design is art when we want it to be and not when someone tells you when it must be.

Im not a designer neither im an artist, im an Arquitect so forgive me if in some point of my speech i become incoerent , but portuguese is my main language and couldnt find better words to put it on english (atleast something readable)

cheers

Design is not art, that’s for sure. Design is one of the basic parts of the Engineering process which involves applying knowledge and resources to achive a desired objective.

Interesting blog. I was a graphic designer for 8 years and I have been an art teacher for 13 years. I also continue to create my own art. I think the point should be made that art from the beginning of history was functional in format. From weaving colorful clothes and rugs to mosaic and stained glass windows on church walls to tell the Bible stories to those who don’t read. The appreciation for physical beauty in functional pieces is a matter of opinion, as in any art form. It’s also a matter of taking the time to enjoy the aesthetic quality of not only man-made creations but the beauty of nature around us. In our hurriedness we miss much of the art museum we live in! As the definition of design dictates: “to create something with a goal or purpose in mind,” can encompass an extremely wide range of endeavors. That goal or purpose can be from a design on a tablecloth to a painting on a wall-all including a different goal for the artist and a different goal for the appreciator. I believe that art or design should always have the user or appreciator in mind. It then becomes a gift to others and not just a self-centered expression. The ability to create beautiful things is a gift and should therefore be given back to others at any and every possible level.

Art vs Design – a worthy subject to ponder. I agree with most of your points, but, one issue I have is that some designs, let’s take a complex animation or cad package for example, are simply too deep and powerful to be easy to use for everybody. Some people simply are not going to be able to use some interfaces!

Now, if you look at some early cad software solutions, like early Pro/Engineer, they were maddeningly complex. Then along comes Solid Works, a windows-based solution with extreme ease-of-use, and now you have a paradigm shift. But, even Solid Works can only simplify complex mechanical design features so much. A portion of the population are going to need Solid Works for Idiots, and many would be better off in another profession.

So I agree with your point in principle, but we can’t exaggerate it too much because it doesn’t hold when you go beyond simple web interfaces and throw in the entire human population.

I recently wrote a book about game development and how to get the game art into the game engine – a tricky task given the poor documentation in the game development field in general. I made a complex subject as simple as I possibly could, and I’ll bet over 90% of the people who buy that book will “get it”, and there will be a few who wouldn’t get it no matter who wrote it and how hard they tried to clarify.

Hello Joshua,

Interesting post, I agree that the design should solve the problem, not creating problem to our readers.

Design is not art, that’s for sure. Design is one of the basic parts of the Engineering process which involves applying knowledge and resources to achive a desired objective.

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imho, (great) design IS an art!

Design has to work and be understood as art doesn’t always need to be. When designing you have to have the user in mind and give them something that they are going to be able to use and also works.

>>Design is not Art.
it’s important to remember=)
great artice, it’s informative for me (and I think not for only for me)
Joshua, thank you=)

It is good stuff. I have a friend who is desiner too. I’ll give him this link off course.

I agree with the phrase ‘ Design is not art’. For web designers in particular, designing a web page shows their creativity and artistic flare, whilst correctly demonstrating a site that has both good functionality and appeals to the customer.

Design and art both require an idea to work from. A website needs to be attractive and dynamically designed to keep the user entertained. Every site is brainstormed with a design in mind, whereas art can be something with hidden meaning. Design is just the building blocks for something to work correctly.

a well designed website, meeting the stated principles, can be a true piece of art..

thanks for this useful article