On Why A-plus.net Sucks and Privacy Policies

by Joshua Porter  |   7 Comments

Last week, during the Attention podcast with Steve Gillmor, I made the claim that many companies were selling my information without my “explicit consent”. Steve strongly disagreed, saying that by using their service I am agreeing to their policies. In other words, the agreement I make when I use Gmail isn’t just about Gmail, it’s about everything that Google stuffs into their privacy policy, whether or not I’ve read it or understood it.

We were talking about this the other day in the office. Our founder Jared, whose father is a lawyer, said that Steve was technically right, given that “explicit consent” is a legal term and by using a service I am legally bound by their privacy policy. (Jared has a great writeup on privacy policies today on Brain Sparks. He asks: What are we agreeing to? )

The problem, as Jared points out, is that privacy policies are not made for real human beings, they’re made so that companies can cover their ass if someone takes them to court for doing evil things. So, given that agreeing to a service (like domain registration, for example), means that we agree to everything the company includes, however vaguely, in their privacy policy, we as customers really need to start paying attention to what companies are trying to slip past us. And I mean that: they are definitely trying to slip stuff past us.

Yesterday I was contacted on my personal cellphone by the hosting company A-plus.net, who told me they are the biggest hosting provider in the U.S. After telling them that I didn’t need any hosting, I asked them how they got my phone number. The guy said that it was from a mailing list. I asked him where the mailing list came from. He didn’t know. I asked to speak to someone who might know. He put me on hold. A minute later he came back and said that he was forwarding me to his manager, and that if I didn’t get through to leave a message. I was then transferred to a line that rang five times and then disconnected.

Now I don’t know if it was an employee of A-plus.net that I was speaking to, or some reseller, but A-plus.net sure as heck aren’t getting my business. And neither are any companies that I find out are selling my personal information, even if I gave them legal consent by using their service. If I don’t give them the equivalent of direct permission, then consider none given.

I’m sticking to my guns on this one. I still view a privacy policy like the ones on Gmail or Hotmail as implicit consent from a practical, if not legal, standpoint. Nothing about it is explicit. It is neither clear, nor straightforward, nor precise, nor exact, nor unambiguous. All of these make something explicit, and very few privacy policies fit.

So for me, the sh*t has hit the fan. I’m going to be a lot more careful now, but I suspect that it will take something very big to get this pain out to everyone. Or maybe just a cold call to their cellphone, perhaps, like I got yesterday.

I wonder if these companies are surprised when I blog about how displeased I am and say things like Aplus.net sucks. I’m no Jeff Jarvis, but I do know his email address.

Comments ( 7 Responses so far )

1.  CM Harrington on February 15th, 2006 (Comment) #

From what I understood, it is illegal in the US to receive such a call on your mobile phone (as you are paying for the call)

You may want to inform them that they have reached a mobile phone and to take you off their list.

2.  Dennis D. McDonald on March 1st, 2006 (Comment) #

Joshua, you really hit a hot button on this one. I’ve blogged about the topic several time, e.g.,

http://www.ddmcd.com/PDM

and

http://www.ddmcd.com/gmail.html

but the thing is … I don’t think that most casual users really care till they get bitten in the ass by the release of something they don’t agree with.

I personally think that permission should be explicit and that I should have an opportunity to benefit from the sale and re-use of “my information” but that is going to take a long, long time to accomplish.

3.  Aplus Sucks on April 3rd, 2006 (Comment) #

Put in Aplus Sucks in Google, this is what you get, and I couln’t totally agree more. It would seem that most ost would have the policy to notify you. They will also hold any data you have hostage on their servers until they deicde to let you have it back, so I advise any one that deals with this pathetic company to make certain that you have ALL your files cached locally. I swear on my mother if I was in San Diego I would go there and wait for the so called tech that I spoke to on the phone to get off of work and open up a can of whoop assssssssssss on him. People get so sick of people talking junk on the phone just because they’re far away and don’t think they can get touched. Even worse when they know they’re in the wrong they hang up the phone like a little biaaaatch. Stay away from this company people, I learned the hard way, and someday they’re going to learn too.

4.  gustywinds on June 13th, 2006 (Comment) #

yea aplus.net sucks!

I was interested in a ecomerce account and the sales guy Sam said,try the E-commerce software account and if you dont like it we will refund the money. after two weeks of working on the website I wasnt happy with the software and asked to have it removed and to refund the money to my bank account.I was told it would take two days for the refund to go through.After two weeks I called to see what happened to my refund and i was told that thay dont give refunds.And that thay would deduct my future fees from thease moneys. This is wrong, thay lied and disrepected me. This company sucks and I will be moving all my websites from them.

Aplus.net lies,disrespects there customers,and is untrustable.dont do bussines with them thay are the worst web provider ever thay are number one in ripoffs.gustywindsgus@hotmail.com

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http://www.tundrawing.com
http://www.gustywindsproducts.com

5.  a web marketer on September 7th, 2006 (Comment) #

aplus.net suck so hard for so many reasons, it is hard to know where to start. for god sakes, stay far away from them. they have cost me thousands and days of site downtime. i’m trying as fast as possible to get away from them.

6.  forrest lyman on January 3rd, 2007 (Comment) #

they completely screwed me as well. I am starting to research a class action suit. for more details on the suit check out my new blog, http://aplus-webhosting.com

7.  V Johnson on September 24th, 2007 (Comment) #

Don’t ever use Aplus as your host. The servers crash constantly and their customer service is HORRIBLE. If you can ever get anyone on the phone, they barely speak english.

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