June 25th, 2007
Danah Boyd, who routinely interviews folks who use MySpace and Facebook, says there is a class divide between the services, with Facebook garnering a higher socio-economic class than MySpace.
Viewing American class divisions through Facebook and MySpace
As Danah admits, it’s difficult talking about class. I’m always uncomfortable with it because it’s always a spectrum…there is no clear distinction between this class and that class. Even the “cool” kids class had some people who could cross into the “skater” kids class when I was in high school. Also, talking about class can only reinforce it. To that end I wonder what sorts of things we’re going to learn from this distinction…does talking about class make us any smarter, or simply make us more likely to make class distinctions? (to her credit: Danah makes it clear that she’s having a hard time discussing this).
One way that I think would be interesting to cut up the populations would be activity. Are the people using MySpace for different reasons than Facebook? Are the two services equivalent from a tool standpoint? What about people who use both? It seems that Danah is talking about them equivalently, although in this case that’s not the focus of her piece so I don’t know for sure.
One question I do have: does the design of the site somehow influence who uses it? It’s an interesting question given that the two sites are so dissimilar. Does the clean design of Facebook portray a certain lifestyle while the bazaar of MySpace another?
Boyd mentions this is indeed a factor:
“Most teens who exclusively use Facebook are familiar with and have an opinion about MySpace. These teens are very aware of MySpace and they often have a negative opinion about it. They see it as gaudy, immature, and “so middle school.” They prefer the “clean” look of Facebook, noting that it is more mature and that MySpace is “so lame.” What hegemonic teens call gaudy can also be labeled as “glitzy” or “bling” or “fly” (or what my generation would call “phat”) by subaltern teens. Terms like “bling” come out of hip-hop culture where showy, sparkly, brash visual displays are acceptable and valued. The look and feel of MySpace resonates far better with subaltern communities than it does with the upwardly mobile hegemonic teens. This is even clear in the blogosphere where people talk about how gauche MySpace is while commending Facebook on its aesthetics. I’m sure that a visual analyst would be able to explain how classed aesthetics are, but it is pretty clear to me that aesthetics are more than simply the “eye of the beholder” - they are culturally narrated and replicated. That “clean” or “modern” look of Facebook is akin to West Elm or Pottery Barn or any poshy Scandinavian design house (that I admit I’m drawn to) while the more flashy look of MySpace resembles the Las Vegas imagery that attracts millions every year. I suspect that lifestyles have aesthetic values and that these are being reproduced on MySpace and Facebook.”
Or, perhaps the difference is more tactical. Does the fact that you have to be “friends” with someone in Facebook to see their profile make it a different experience than MySpace? Does the fact that Facebook started in the Ivy Leagues mean anything? Are socio-economic factors out-weighed by tactical aspects of the design itself?
Anyway, as you can see this is causing more questions for me than answers. Same for most of the folks in the comments on Danah’s site. Read through those and you can see why talking about class is such a tough subject.
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Comments ( 12 Responses so far )
1. Julian Schrader on June 25th, 2007 (Comment) #
Yeah, I never got why MySpace could get that popular. I think it’s immature and lame
For me, clean design and so forth is important. Didn’t try Facebook yet though.
2. Bud Caddell on June 25th, 2007 (Comment) #
Not to date myself, but when I got into these social platforms I was in a band and myspace was the best way to find fans. Facebook was just for students then.
3. Mr K on June 25th, 2007 (Comment) #
I’m surprised it took some interviews to spot this. It is nice to have some concrete evidence that MySpace has a completely different audience to Facebook.
Over at It’s Beta there is an article of similar vain talking about linkedin vs facebook. Again It seems that people can’t see that LinkedIn has a different audience again.
MySpace = ready access for anyone
Facebook = anyone serious about personal networking
LinkedIn = anyone serious about professional networking
that’s my thoughts anyway
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4. Nick on June 25th, 2007 (Comment) #
I think you mentioned in passing the most important factor here. Facebook was started in the Ivy League for Ivy League people, so it has spread from there, to other colleges and now to other people not associated with any college. So, from the start, you have a primary audience of high-achieving college students.
5. Lasse Rintakumpu on June 25th, 2007 (Comment) #
Interesting post. Point well made that talking about classes only reinforces them. However, remaining silent doesn’t remove the class distinctions that (still) exist.
Somewhat off topic: Being a Scandinavian myself I can’t help but feeling warm and fuzzy reading that phrase “poshy Scandinavian design house” (whatever that means).
6. Frek on June 26th, 2007 (Comment) #
I think that Users divide between lamer, good user and
7. Mark Caudell on June 26th, 2007 (Comment) #
I’m from the UK and I find have always found the American social structures in schools very interesting because people never try and break them. People are happy knowing that they are in one group or they other it seems and choose they’re social networking site accordingly.
Here in the UK, in my office, right now, I know that there are people that use Facebook over Myspace and vice versa but the overriding factor is that we’re all educated and we’re all professionals, class doesn’t even come into it. I personally use Myspace, the guy opposite me uses Facebook. I think, over here, it’s more a matter of which ever one you either feel comfortable using or which ever one you find first or your friends invite you to join.
8. Sandy on June 26th, 2007 (Comment) #
I’d encourage the research to face the class issue head on. It may be difficult to talk about, perhaps one reason is that American culture typically likes to think of itself as non-class based. Part of the American mythology is that everyone is equal. So looking at the data that suggests class divides would be really useful ethnographical research.
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9. ConBuzz.Com Social Networking - Business Networking on July 14th, 2007 (Comment) #
Julian,
Myspace just filled some holes..
1- Users who do not have any clue about web design want to show of their own design video music etc etc on their page. It was so cool for them..
2- They want to share with the community which was already there.
3- Dating…
4- Music groups….
It is ugly but smart ….