Technorati Tags: What Are They Really?

by Joshua Porter  |   11 Comments

Round and round we go, where we’ll stop, nobody knows! The crazy game of tags gets crazier. What are Technorati tags really? And should we use them now that categories are being indexed in the same way?

Jeff Jarvis has started another good conversation about tagging over at Buzzmachine. (He started another good conversation about tagging recently). He recently implementated his interpretation of “tags”, and that got him thinking about their value and purpose.

Jeff states several benefits for the use of tags, including two on search engine visibility:

  • The tags should be useful in informing search (if you search for a word that happens to be a tag, you would want posts using that tag to have priority).
  • I’ll bet you increase page views per visit because readers can find more on a topic that interests them.

About the same time Jeff was writing this I was writing a post comparing Del.icio.us and Technorati tagging. I pointed out that all value coming from Technorati tags comes through Technorati itself: if tags work then people find your page through one of Technorati tag pages. This is very similar to optimizing your pages for Google, except that most of the work you do optimizing for Google will help you out on other search engines, too. For example, if you write really clear page titles to help you gain pagerank in Google, you’ll also get better ranking in Yahoo!.

On the other hand, if you link to Technorati via a Technorati tag, it is doubtful that other blog search engines will support your link because they would be giving credence to a growing competitor.

Additionally, a one-sentence comment to my post caught my attention. Scott Rafer, president and CEO of Feedster (a blog search engine), tacked on to the conversation by pointing out that Technorati is effectively getting a huge SEO benefit by having people link to them for tagging purposes. So, for every Technorati tag that someone creates in their web site, they’re giving Technorati SEO benefit while lessening their own SEO benefit for other services. It appears that the initial benefit I thought I was getting from using Technorati tags wasn’t quite the benefit I thought.

Back to Jeff’s post. David Sifry, CEO of Technorati, makes Jeff happy by pointing out that Technorati is already indexing his posts by tag even though he hasn’t used Technorati tags. Apparently, Technorati indexes the categories supplied by various blog tools (it indexes my Wordpress blog categories, for example). Before this comment by David, I didn’t know those were indexed. Sure enough, it’s explained right there in the tag help section. Now I wonder if other blog search engines index them.

Later, David Sifry reported on his own blog that 1/3 of all blogs indexed by Technorati were tagged. In the beginning of the post Sifry clearly includes “categories” (such as Wordpress categories) in the numbers he cites, but doesn’t answer the question that immediately comes to mind, which was articulated by a commenter named Andrew, who asks: “Do you have any numbers on how much tagging is the recognition of category names as tags, and how much is ‘explicit tagging’?”. Obviously, this is an important number to know. If, say 95% of posts are using categories as opposed to tags, then that says a lot about the tagging landscape. Because of the way the post is written, though, and because David does not answer Andrew’s question, it seems like Technorati tags are growing at an amazing rate.

However, this may not be the case at all. It could be that Technorati tags are being used very little, and that categories are the primary source for the Technorati tag pages. If this is the case, there is very little incentive to use Technorati tags. And even if tags are being used as much or more than categories (highly unlikely) there is still no clear reason to continue using them instead of categories.

Additionally, in an update to his post Jeff Jarvis claims that his tags are “open” because they don’t address Technorati, and instead address his own site. This claim was disputed by Kevin Marks, another Technorati engineer. (Don’t you appreciate it when the people making the tools actually join the conversation?) Marks says that because they don’t address the Technorati tag set, which is “open” for anyone to address, they are closed. Presumably, any tag set would suffice to make them “open” in Marks’ definition of open. (As for me, I now have no idea what “open” means.)

Further confounding me was a comment left by Christina Wodtke. She suggested that the things that Jeff was calling tags were not tags at all, but were actually “keywords”. She made the smart point that they were being used in very nearly the same way that keywords have been used for years. As for tags, she likens them to graffiti, which is left by people who don’t own whatever it is they’re being applied to.

So now we return to the original question brought up at the beginning of my Del.icio.us and Technorati tag comparison post: who gets what benefit?. It really depends on who you ask…

Comments ( 11 Responses so far )

1.  Jeff Watkins on August 16th, 2005 (Comment) #

Based on the Technorati Help page, if I provide the rel="tag" attribute to the category listing for each article, I should get indexed just fine.

Note the text, about half way down the page: “You do not have to link to Technorati.”. I can link to my own category pages, without giving any SEO benefit to Technorati, and still be indexed.

This doesn’t sound so bad to me.

2.  Noah Brier on August 16th, 2005 (Comment) #

I had a bit of an AHA moment the other day with Technorati when I realized that the benefit was to allow people to organize themselves with their content alone, no additional structure required. It’s the same way people use Flickr tags to create “groups”. The reason I’d prefer to use a Technorati Tag (which I never have, I might add), is that I’d rather not muddy up my own category system with what is, presumably, a one time thing. It’s the difference between have a hierarchical category system versus an open tagging system, I guess. Just my two cents.

3.  Josh on August 16th, 2005 (Comment) #

It sounds good to me, too, Jeff. What I wonder is if any other blog search engines are supporting this way of doing things….my assumption is that other blog search engines wouldn’t index technorati-specific tags.

If my assumption is correct, then the method you mention is certainly better than any engine-specific method.

4.  vanderwal on August 18th, 2005 (Comment) #

Jeff, when Technorati launched their tags they initially required a link back to Technorati. They removed the requirement quickly, but left the example still showing the link. Not too long after they removed Technorati in the example. This was after the alpha folks had been through and followed what was initially there.

One of the things Technorati did when it began their tag scrapping was to include categories in the commercial blog tools (WordPress and Six Apart tools). I am not sure if this is still done or not.

With Technorati Tags the best value I find is their great interface on their Technorati Tags page. It aggregates social bookmarking tagging results from del.icio.us and furl as well as the photo sites that tag, like Flickr. The scraped tags are displayed in the center of it all. But, the Technorati Tags are what I find least valuable (I find them incredibly less valuable than their own keyword filters).

The down side of Technorati Tags runs across a few lines. But first I will pull together the optimal folksonomy tagging environment (which Technorati does not claim to be), which has three required data points: a distinct object being tagged, a distinct person tagging, and the distinct tags. With these three elements tags filtering can be performed to bring greater value from the corpus. On top of these three elements it is important for the consumer of the content to be performing the tagging, in their own self interest while sharing it with the community. This last component is where Technorati falls from a folksonomy tool, like del.icio.us, into regular tagging.

What is being tagged and by whom is difficult to discern in the open wilds that Technorati scrapes/indexes. In many blogs posts the person tagging is the content creator. But, it really gets confounded when it is unclear whether the tag applies to one or more of the links in their post, the tag is stating what their post is about, or is providing a tag as a summary of the post’s content.

Where I find the Technorati Tags lacking is when I click on a link and the only place the term is being used in the post is in the tag. I too often I can not find a reason for the tag as it relates to their post. When people are selecting tags for their content based on what they think others may call it, we get into a very slippery slope that quickly lands at the doorstep of Cory Doctorow’s Metacrap. This makes it tough to discern language and definitions for the tag terms. Understanding what is being tagged and the vocabulary of the person tagging I may filter in or out that person in my list of people to follow or ignore on specific tag terms.

This is not the fault of Technorati, but it is an unclear practice and implementation on the part of many tagging. In these cases a marriage of the tags and the terms in the text of the posts could provide improved results. Some believe this algorithmic approach is the best way to go, while others believe this is best done by humans. It is important to keep in mind people are loving this tagging stuff at the moment and finding a way to harvest that energy would be helpful. The selfish tagging in del.icio.us and to a large degree in Flickr is what really caught my eye and that of others at the time folksonomy was coined. The richness and value to the individuals was easy to perceive, which was quite different than all tagging efforts that had come before them.

I am finding solid results lately from the nascent Yahoo MyWeb 2 Search, which is quite similar to del.icio.us in many aspects, but the results are layered on top of the regular Yahoo search results from those in your community.

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5.  Thomas Jones on September 9th, 2006 (Comment) #

I was getting some good traffic from technorati for about 3 months, then they just stopped listing my site as updating. From their interface it appears that I haven’t posted to my blog in many months. This is despite both tagging and pinging. Now that they have done this on two of my four blogs, I can only conclude that their service is worse than worthless to me. Of course, emails to their support team are merely ignored.

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6.  Bill on October 23rd, 2006 (Comment) #

Technorati is absolutely useless to me in terms of getting traffic. I see zero benefit from using their tags and am no longer using them.

7.  search engine ranking on November 27th, 2006 (Comment) #

The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes.

Winston Churchill

8.  xiaoxiao on March 15th, 2007 (Comment) #

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