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November 18th, 2005
Update: Added slide deck.
Ok, this is scary. I’m posting a podcast of me giving a talk on Web 2.0. (also posted on Brain Sparks, the supremely interesting UIE blog). My wife assures me that my voice does indeed sound like that, (much to my dismay). I was asked to speak at an NEASIST event called Buy, Hack, or Build: Optimizing your Systems for Your Users and Your Sanity. The two other speakers were Pete Bell of Endeca and Casey Bisson from Plymouth State University.
First, the podcast: Web 2.0 for the Rest of Us (60MB)
Second, the slide deck: Web 2.0 for the Rest of Us (2.2MB)
Here is a quick overview and some pretty graphics for those interested. It wasn’t exactly clear where they wanted me to come down (buy, hack or build), but I found out a little later they had recruited me for the “build”. Not knowing this, I made the argument that the history of the Web was all about hacking, and that hacking is really the only way to innovate.
In my talk, which I gave with the highly recommended Apple Keynote, I equated hacking with design on the fly. There are several outcomes of designing on the fly:
I also made it clear that I wasn’t going to define Web 2.0, as most of the definitions I’ve heard are ambiguous, to say the least. Instead, I focused on four aspects of Web 2.0 that I think are most relevant. Here they are:

These four aspects I broke down as follows:
In other words, I think that Web 2.0 is all about learning how to design systems that model user behavior. This is similar to many other ideas that folks have put forward about Web 2.0, including Tim O’Reilly’s harnessing collective intelligence and John Hagel’s distributed, collaborative and cumulative creation.
Where my view differs from theirs is that I characterize Web 2.0 as simply modeling what we already do in our offline, analog lives. Societies have always harnessed collective intelligence, albeit on a small scale and in a very lossy way. We’ve always done distributed, collaborative, and cumulative creation, just at much smaller distances and without recording it in bytes. The new wave is simply bigger, online, recorded, and digital.
In short, I think Web 2.0 is about modeling something that already exists in our offline worlds, mostly in the spoken words and minds of humankind.
I hope you enjoy the talk.
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1. Alex Barnett 11:36pm, Fri 18th, 2005
Am listening now…love it.
2. Priya Shah 3:43pm, Fri 1st, 2006
Completely agree when you say that “Web 2.0 is about modeling something that already exists in our offline worlds, mostly in the spoken words and minds of humankind.” Very insightful!
3. Opisy gg 7:17am, Tue 3rd, 2007
Very interesting post, i’ll use this
4. Jon Reed 11:29pm, Sun 21st, 2007
I realize this is a couple of years old, but I’ve been researching and listening to Web 2.0 webcasts and podcasts, and this is maybe the best one I have heard in terms of applying some of these Web 2.0 technologies and also understanding the overall trends.
My work involves analyzes market trends in the SAP community, and the SAP world definitely is being impacted by Web 2.0 in a corporate context.
In addition to some of your main points, I really liked your observation that one of the keys right now is “capturing attention.” And that once you can capture attention, it can be monetized, and/or companies will want to invest in it or acquire the eyeballs (as in the Skype acquisition by eBay).
I also think your distinction about the power of a well-made user interface, and how that separates some of the “winners and losers” in the Web 2.0 world, was a great point. You should podcast on this topic more often.
Jon Reed
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